who makes the heaviest premium .277 bullet?

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08 September 2008, 00:57

Marc_Stokeld

who makes the heaviest premium .277 bullet?

I am looking for the heaviest premium .277 bullet. What is available above the Nosler 160 Partition? I would really prefer a round nose if it is available.

I am not interested in cup and core bullets like Hawk or the old Barnes bullets.

Any suggestions?

08 September 2008, 01:06

Fish30114

Marc, I'm pretty sure that is the top of the range in a .277, they are hard to come by sometimes too.

I haven't ever heard of anything current heavier than the 160 NP, premium or otherwise.

Good Luck--Don

08 September 2008, 01:21

Kabluewy

The reason such heavy bullets in .277 are so scarce is because the standard 270 twist rate is not fast enough for stability. For example, that's why the .264 whatever has the fast twist 8" or 8.5" for the heavy 6.5mm bullets.

Anyway, that's how I understand it.

KB

08 September 2008, 01:43

Walter Prociuk

.277, 160 grain bullets are noted for producing tight groups. They are a great bullet.

08 September 2008, 02:38

vapodog

I believe woodleigh makes a 180 round nose and the round nose has a good chance of stabilizing.....somewhere here I have some old Barnes cup and core 170 round nose....but I'm not ;ikely going to find them as it's been a while!

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08 September 2008, 02:45

Marc_Stokeld

Vap-

Have you used the big Barnes' on big game? I had poor results with Hawks and am leery of the old C&C bullets where I need any sort of penetration. If they made bonded versions then I will try to track some down.

I checked Woodleigh's site and saw .277 topping out at 150gr. I am using the 7mm 175gr Woodleighs for bears. So far I have only shot one small bear with the load. I am looking for the heavy .277 bullets to use in my stainless/titanium/synthetic rifle for bear hunting in wet weather. It has rained almost every day this season. I have used and abused the old 7x57 and am thinking of sorta taking it easy on the old girl this year.

08 September 2008, 03:02

vapodog

Marc,
I looked at the woodleigh website too and did not see the big .270s....

I used some big round nose bullets (Barnes IIRC) many years ago but never hunted anything larger than deer.

I only use the .270 as a plains rifle for mule deer and pronghorns anymore so can't testify to the value of the bigger bullets.

This much I can say....if I was going to hunt 400+ pound animals with the .270 I'd be finding some 150 A-Frames.....I have high confidence in them.

Sorry....I was wring about the big round nosed bullets.....I was sure I saw some recently....

I'm not much of a Nosler Partition fan as they shed the front core so much.

08 September 2008, 04:21

vapodog

The 150 grain Barnes TSX might be a fine bullet as well.

08 September 2008, 04:36

Hipshoot

Just (last 6 mo.) shot up my last (40) 170 gr. Speers------They shot OK but weren't totally stabelizing in my rifle. Some of the bullet holes were slightly elongated in my pre 1964 M70 .270 Win. with IMR 4350 powder.
They shot great in my fathers Pre 64 though, under 1" at 100 yds with IMR 4831 powder. Both rifles had factory barrels with 1 in 10" twists.
SO, you MAY NOT get a bullet heavier (meaning longer) than the 160 gr. Nosler (which is semi-pointed to keep length down) to stabelize in your rifle!

Hipshot

08 September 2008, 09:41

SDhunter

Marc,
Shoot me a PM with your address and I will send you a partial box of Barnes 180gr RN. If you want to play with some.

08 September 2008, 09:59

Doc

Heaviest bullet I'm aware of that is in production is the 169.5 grain Ultra Low Drag Rebated Boat Tail bullet by Wildcat. (Richard Graves in Alberta, CA).

The recommended twist rate is 1-8. I use them in a 270 Allen Mag.

The next size bullet is the 160 partition as far as I know.

I have a ton of the wildcat bullets if you want to try some.

08 September 2008, 20:25

buckshot

Marc, your question warms the hearts of 30-06 owners such as myself. A long range wonder in its time, and no slouch when compared against modern competitors, the 270 Winchester was and shall remain a premier hunting calibre for the wide open spaces western hunters frequent. Short range and high sectional density are best left to the economical 6.5 Swede.
Kabluewy did you right by mentioning the 264. There is a reason the 7m/m Remington did and the 264 didn't: excessively long bullets in small bore rifles require humongous pressures to achieve flat trajectories. I wouldn't waste too much time on this particular endeavor...

09 September 2008, 01:44

Lou270

These are the "heavies" I am aware of:

Nosler 160
Barnes 160 spz (no longer made)
Barnes 180 RN (no longer made)
Hawk 165 RT
Hawk 180 RT
Speer 170 RN (no longer made)
Stewart 170 Spz (no data on this bullet - saw it mentioned in African hunting magazine article)
Dominino 160 (no longer made)

I have tried the Nosler 160, Barnes 180, and Speer 170 and they have been accurate in several 270s though I have never taken game with any of them.

Lou

09 September 2008, 11:37

seafire2

If someone can beat the accuracy and terminal performance of the 160 Partition and be a heavier bullet in 270 caliber... then I'd keep it a secret...

thr Nosler 160 is about as good as it gets to maximize the performance in a 270...

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09 September 2008, 12:42

Shinzo

quote:
Originally posted by Lou270:
These are the "heavies" I am aware of:

Nosler 160
Barnes 160 spz (no longer made)
Barnes 180 RN (no longer made)
Hawk 165 RT
Hawk 180 RT
Speer 170 RN (no longer made)
Stewart 170 Spz (no data on this bullet - saw it mentioned in African hunting magazine article)
Dominino 160 (no longer made)

I have tried the Nosler 160, Barnes 180, and Speer 170 and they have been accurate in several 270s though I have never taken game with any of them.

Lou

I have a few of either 160 or 170 grain semi pointed soft points that I was given that I think are Sako bullets.
Steve
Edited to say I've been telling lies again, they're 156gr, Sako still lists this bullet weight, now in a bonded core ( I know mine predate these), I don't know if they're available in the USA or not.

12 September 2008, 13:55

cal30 1906

Doc

you have a PM

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