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30-06 family
10 October 2018, 02:52
ted thorn30-06 family
I want to make a display for my gun room.
The 30-06 family
Could the members of AR kindly care to take a moment to list as many as they can think of.
Keep to only standard long action as I want to do a .308 family as well
400 Whelen through 6-06...or bigger and smaller.
Thank you
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10 October 2018, 04:32
StonecreekThe .25-06 and the .35 Whelen are the only factory cartridges which are identical to the parent .30-06 cartridge in everything but caliber, sharing its body length, over all length, and shoulder.
Other factory cartridges vary in different ways:
.270 Winchester: The first factory .30-06 derivative has a longer overall length (2.495" vs. 2.54").
.280 Remington: Has a longer length base-to-shoulder and a slightly longer length overall
The rest of the cartridges based on the .30-06 are wildcats, so their dimensions will vary with the whims of whoever does the chambers. Some can be longer, shorter, have a different shoulder angle, or be "improved" with less body taper. Of course, some can be identical. 6mm/06 and 6.5/06 are frequently found wildcats which are
usually chambered to match .30-06 case specs, but not always. Probably thousands of military Mausers have been rechambered to 8mm/06 using standard case dimensions. But you run into some "improved" 8mm/06 chamberings, also.
Not sure, but the .338/06 may have some SAAMI specs from its proprietary originator which may or may not be identical to the .30/06.
The case can and has been necked to every conceivable caliber from .17 up to the diameter which makes for a straight-walled case. Such a cartridge (about .411"? .416"? .423"?) has to headspace on the case mouth like a .45 ACP, not a very desirable circumstance for a centerfire rifle.
10 October 2018, 07:40
taylorce1I've had several, but basically between wildcat rounds and factory pick a bullet and and it has been done in the case. I've personally owned .25-06, 6.5-06, .270, .280, 8mm-06, .338-06, and .35 Whelen, and I've wanted to try the .375-06 and .400 Whelen. Ted I can help you with several dummies if you want, I have died for everyone I mentioned that I owned except the 8mm-06.
10 October 2018, 08:47
ted thornSounds good Chad
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10 October 2018, 20:29
275RIGBYTed-
.375 Whelen and .375 Scovill, a couple that are one in the same cartridge:
7MM Express = .280 Remington
.338-06 A-Square = .338-06
And then you can look into these cartridge families:
the OKH's, Hawk's, Howell's, Gibbs' and P.O. Ackley's Improved cartridges-
10 October 2018, 23:00
buffybrCheck out P.O, Ackley's books "Handbook for Shooters & Reloaders" Volumes I & II.
He shows his line of improved cartridges plus the improved lines by ICL, Gibbs, and others, and that's just what was available in the 60s and 70s.
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10 October 2018, 23:52
275RIGBY...thought of another, the .35 Brown-Whelen
11 October 2018, 01:01
bluefishThe 338-06 is simply a necked up cartridge with no other changes.
11 October 2018, 03:59
AtkinsonIf it ain't got a belt, its a son, daughter or kin to the 30-06, Its been seized up or down to almost every caliber out there that fits in a bolt action rifle..If you count shortening it you can add the rest of them, including the .308, 250 Savage, 257 Robts,6 mm and 243, and a host of others..
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11 October 2018, 04:03
wildcat junkie8mm-06
11 October 2018, 04:57
Mark ClarkMy boss is a big fan of the 22-06 AI.
Yes we do make our own barrels.
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