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Quickload Request 7x64
26 July 2020, 17:57
ScrumbagQuickload Request 7x64
Hi folks,
Would someone be kind enough to run quickload for me?
7x64
CIP / SAAMI specs
160gr TMK
Twist 1:8.25
26" barrel
FL Resized brass
I accept that I use any loads generated at my own risk
Thanks in advance,
Scrummy
26 July 2020, 20:51
MickinColoI'm afraid Quickload V 3.9 does not list the Sierra 160 grain Tipped Match King. I don't see an update for V 3.9 either.
26 July 2020, 22:13
ScrumbagReally? Are you sure? That's a bummer!
Not listed under the TMK acronym is it?
26 July 2020, 23:14
MickinColoIt's interesting, I see TMK's in .308 and .264 but not in .277 or .284. The only listing for a .284 in 160 grains is SPBT and HPBT.
26 July 2020, 23:33
ScrumbagHow odd. They definitely exist. I shot some on Friday and ordered some more yesterday...
Could I be cheeky and ask you to run the 160gr HPBT as it will give me a good idea of where to be looking?
26 July 2020, 23:33
MickinColoIt looks like there was a data update as of April 2020 that I don't have. Maybe someone else here can help you out.
I can run that info for you.
26 July 2020, 23:42
MickinColo Cartridge : 7 x 64 Brenneke
Bullet : .284, 160, Sierra HPBT 1925
Useable Case Capaci: 61.191 grain H2O = 3.973 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.307 inch = 84.00 mm
Barrel Length : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm
Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 52666 psi, or 363 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 100 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !
212 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
--------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------
Alliant Reloder-26 98.3 59.6 3.86 2950 100.0 52667 10891 1.306 ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP 98.7 58.1 3.77 2917 99.4 52667 10933 1.307 ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 70 95.4 57.3 3.71 2901 99.7 52667 10594 1.296 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560 100.0 57.6 3.73 2894 96.8 52260 11039 1.309 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC 98.9 57.3 3.71 2884 97.3 52667 10713 1.296 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation 100.0 57.0 3.69 2869 98.4 51860 10657 1.320 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22 100.0 57.0 3.69 2869 98.4 51860 10657 1.320 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA15 100.0 57.0 3.69 2869 98.4 51860 10657 1.320 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2213 99.7 56.9 3.68 2869 97.2 52667 10597 1.296 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO 100.0 60.0 3.89 2867 95.1 51197 11031 1.328 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-16 92.5 50.8 3.29 2854 100.0 52667 9572 1.303 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum 100.0 61.4 3.98 2838 98.8 50905 10268 1.322
ReloadSwiss RS 62 91.3 53.9 3.49 2837 100.0 52667 9706 1.332 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209 96.4 54.1 3.50 2835 98.3 52667 10069 1.303 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 518 93.2 54.3 3.52 2835 99.6 52667 9935 1.318 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19 96.8 54.6 3.54 2833 98.3 52667 10120 1.312 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter 92.4 53.8 3.49 2832 99.7 52667 9853 1.319 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S365 94.2 52.9 3.43 2831 100.0 52667 9162 1.327 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP14 ~approximation 97.5 55.0 3.56 2827 98.3 52667 10051 1.313 ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP 91.8 51.2 3.32 2811 100.0 52667 9423 1.328 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP19 ~approximation 91.8 51.2 3.32 2811 100.0 52667 9421 1.328 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350 91.4 51.5 3.34 2809 100.0 52667 9424 1.347 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204 91.8 53.5 3.46 2809 98.1 52667 9845 1.314 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA4 94.8 53.5 3.46 2809 98.1 52667 9845 1.314 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 ~approximation 94.8 53.5 3.46 2809 98.1 52667 9845 1.314 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC 98.3 56.0 3.63 2808 96.5 52667 9955 1.310 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S385 97.1 55.4 3.59 2800 99.0 52667 9712 1.335 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R905 100.0 56.0 3.63 2798 96.2 49972 10211 1.345
IMR 4831 96.4 52.1 3.38 2795 100.0 52667 9230 1.338 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780 95.9 57.1 3.70 2792 98.2 52667 9662 1.318 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WXR 100.0 55.8 3.62 2791 97.4 47583 10426 1.373
Bofors RP15 100.0 55.8 3.62 2791 97.4 47583 10426 1.373
Bofors RP4 NT ~approximation 92.5 52.9 3.43 2788 99.2 52667 9520 1.329 ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 12 100.0 60.2 3.90 2786 96.4 46350 10651 1.375
Alliant Reloder-23 100.0 55.2 3.58 2786 100.0 47589 9612 1.376
PB Clermont PCL 517 100.0 60.2 3.90 2781 96.2 46086 10647 1.378
Accurate 3100 100.0 56.4 3.66 2778 99.7 51564 9490 1.363 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R904 95.4 53.1 3.44 2777 97.2 52667 9563 1.318 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V 94.4 51.5 3.34 2775 100.0 52667 8689 1.327 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S070 91.4 51.0 3.30 2770 99.4 52667 9330 1.340 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4350 93.9 51.8 3.36 2770 98.9 52667 9295 1.321 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4350 92.2 51.7 3.35 2769 99.0 52667 9277 1.321 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4955 Enduron 98.8 54.2 3.51 2769 96.6 52667 9593 1.318 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 100.0 54.8 3.55 2750 95.5 45558 10274 1.386
Somchem S361 94.6 56.9 3.68 2748 96.4 52667 9386 1.331 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S065 90.2 49.8 3.22 2748 99.8 52667 8981 1.341 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 100.0 54.8 3.55 2745 95.6 49067 9746 1.352
Bofors RP5 NT ~approximation 100.0 57.5 3.73 2739 93.4 47682 10039 1.363
ADI AP 2214 100.0 58.6 3.79 2736 95.6 45965 10151 1.379
Alliant Reloder-25 100.0 56.1 3.64 2734 99.3 42764 10234 1.428
Vihtavuori N165 100.0 55.8 3.62 2720 98.1 48642 9326 1.371
Vihtavuori N150 91.7 48.8 3.16 2710 100.0 52667 8150 1.344 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N160 100.0 54.1 3.50 2709 96.4 49527 9235 1.358
Bofors RP30 100.0 56.4 3.66 2641 93.9 38734 10277 1.507
Norma MRP 2 100.0 56.4 3.66 2641 93.9 38734 10277 1.507
Lovex S071 100.0 53.3 3.46 2624 98.6 42885 9143 1.484
Vihtavuori N570 100.0 59.5 3.85 2609 86.1 37171 10650 1.529
IMR 7977 Enduron 100.0 55.8 3.62 2599 86.9 47112 8736 1.394
Hodgdon H1000 100.0 55.8 3.62 2579 92.7 38868 9560 1.494
ADI AR 2217 100.0 55.8 3.62 2579 92.7 38868 9560 1.494
Hodgdon Retumbo 100.0 56.7 3.68 2529 94.5 34177 10034 1.579
ADI AR 2225 100.0 56.7 3.68 2529 94.5 34177 10034 1.579
Alliant Reloder-33 100.0 61.2 3.97 2523 84.6 34459 10234 1.586
ReloadSwiss RS 80 100.0 61.2 3.97 2470 83.8 32753 10021 1.620
Lovex D100 100.0 60.7 3.93 2469 80.8 38067 8699 1.533
ADI AR 2218 100.0 60.1 3.89 2441 79.7 33394 9832 1.604
Vihtavuori N170 100.0 55.8 3.62 2441 84.3 35643 8772 1.594
Vihtavuori 24N41 100.0 60.1 3.89 2438 77.1 35487 8912 1.567
Norma 217 100.0 55.6 3.60 2434 91.1 29816 9847 1.673
Hodgdon H870 100.0 58.2 3.77 2394 83.4 30011 9538 1.670
Alliant Reloder-50 100.0 61.0 3.95 2328 78.4 27268 9519 1.758
Bofors 12,7mmRA NC1214 Lot20115087 100.0 59.7 3.87 2303 71.5 29183 8770 1.752
Hodgdon 50BMG 100.0 57.3 3.71 2270 68.7 29388 8117 1.713
Hodgdon US 869 100.0 60.1 3.89 2265 72.5 29011 8176 1.706
Somchem 12.7-0 100.0 58.2 3.77 2242 68.9 30319 7561 1.681
SNPE Vectan SP 13 100.0 57.6 3.73 2224 77.1 26607 8138 1.764
Accurate 8700 100.0 58.9 3.81 2182 74.6 26122 7924 1.799
PB Clermont PCL 513/520/9520 100.0 57.6 3.73 2164 73.6 25153 7802 1.806
Vihtavuori 20N29 100.0 60.7 3.93 2153 71.0 24848 7903 1.838
NC A3502 ,test only 100.0 55.2 3.58 2009 50.5 24519 5747 1.863
TLP A 502(RH) ,test only 100.0 55.2 3.58 1986 54.8 22909 6137 1.914
IMR TrailBoss 100.0 19.0 1.23 1706 100.0 35921 2649 1.752
ADI AS 25 BP 100.0 19.0 1.23 1706 100.0 35921 2649 1.752
V1734 7-multiperf ,test only 100.0 55.2 3.58 1439 25.2 13198 2833 2.446
26 July 2020, 23:54
ScrumbagVery kind, thank you!
Reloder 26 isn't so common but Norma MRP, RS70 and Viht N560 are all fairly common so can get on whith those.
Scrummy
31 July 2020, 03:25
MickinColoI updated QL
Cartridge : 7 x 64 Brenneke
Bullet : .284, 160, Sierra TMK 7660
Useable Case Capaci: 59.495 grain H2O = 3.863 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.307 inch = 84.00 mm
Barrel Length : 20.7 inch = 525.8 mm
Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 52666 psi, or 363 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 100 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !
224 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
--------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------
Alliant Reloder-26 *C 99.4 58.6 3.80 2776 99.7 52667 14147 1.151 ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP *C 99.8 57.1 3.70 2741 98.0 52667 13939 1.150 ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 70 *C 92.8 54.2 3.51 2720 99.5 52667 13128 1.142 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC 99.8 56.3 3.64 2707 94.9 52667 13505 1.139 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-16 *C *T 93.4 49.9 3.23 2693 99.9 52667 12432 1.144 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RL16 TZ *C *T 93.4 49.9 3.23 2693 99.9 52667 12432 1.144 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N555 *C*T 100.0 53.8 3.48 2686 99.9 52545 12711 1.181 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560 *C 100.0 56.0 3.63 2683 93.8 50510 13712 1.170
Somchem S365 95.3 52.0 3.37 2678 100.0 52667 11924 1.166 ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 62 92.2 53.0 3.43 2674 99.6 52667 12565 1.171 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2213 100.0 55.4 3.59 2673 94.4 51565 13219 1.150 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 518 94.2 53.3 3.46 2669 98.4 52667 12686 1.158 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 511 90.4 52.8 3.42 2668 98.7 52667 12620 1.159 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter 93.4 52.9 3.43 2667 98.7 52667 12603 1.159 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209 97.3 53.1 3.44 2666 96.4 52667 12724 1.144 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19 *C 97.8 53.6 3.47 2664 96.5 52667 12795 1.152 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22 *C 100.0 55.4 3.59 2664 96.0 50075 13334 1.180
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation 100.0 55.4 3.59 2664 96.0 50075 13334 1.180
Raufoss RA15 *C 100.0 55.4 3.59 2664 96.0 50075 13334 1.180
Bofors RP14 ~approximation 98.5 54.0 3.50 2659 96.4 52667 12709 1.153 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO 100.0 58.3 3.78 2654 91.6 49355 13621 1.189
Norma URP *C 92.8 50.3 3.26 2652 99.6 52667 12169 1.166 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP19 ~approximation 92.8 50.3 3.26 2652 99.6 52667 12166 1.166 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350 92.3 50.6 3.28 2649 99.7 52667 12216 1.186 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550 *C 90.0 50.4 3.27 2649 99.5 52667 12268 1.171 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon LVR 90.3 49.5 3.21 2646 99.3 52667 12098 1.161 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA4 95.7 52.5 3.40 2642 96.2 52667 12437 1.153 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 ~approximation 95.7 52.5 3.40 2642 96.2 52667 12437 1.153 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204 *C 92.7 52.5 3.40 2642 96.2 52667 12437 1.153 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC *T 99.2 55.0 3.56 2639 94.1 52667 12499 1.148 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831 97.4 51.2 3.32 2637 99.7 52667 11954 1.175 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S385 98.1 54.4 3.52 2636 97.4 52667 12364 1.173 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum 100.0 59.7 3.87 2633 96.3 49071 12915 1.182
Winchester Supreme 780 96.9 56.0 3.63 2628 96.3 52667 12216 1.155 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V 95.4 50.6 3.28 2626 100.0 52667 11312 1.164 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 NT *C ~approximation 93.4 52.0 3.37 2625 97.8 52667 12116 1.167 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-23 *C *T 100.0 53.7 3.48 2616 99.9 47211 12313 1.215
Bofors RP36 ZT *C *T 100.0 53.7 3.48 2616 99.9 47211 12313 1.215
Rottweil R904 96.3 52.1 3.38 2613 95.1 52667 12050 1.156 ! Near Maximum !
Shooters World SW4350 92.3 50.1 3.24 2609 98.2 52667 11896 1.178 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S070 92.3 50.1 3.24 2609 98.2 52667 11896 1.178 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4350 *T 94.8 50.9 3.30 2609 97.4 52667 11811 1.159 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4350 93.1 50.8 3.29 2609 97.5 52667 11794 1.159 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 6,5 StaBall *T*C 91.6 54.1 3.50 2606 100.0 52667 11043 1.155 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4955 Enduron *C*T 99.7 53.2 3.45 2603 94.4 52667 12030 1.155 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R905 100.0 54.4 3.53 2596 93.1 48291 12669 1.201
Shooters World Long Rifle 91.0 48.8 3.16 2591 99.0 52667 11498 1.177 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S065 91.0 48.8 3.16 2591 99.0 52667 11498 1.177 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R907 90.0 48.5 3.14 2589 97.5 52667 11615 1.171 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP7 90.0 48.5 3.14 2589 97.5 52667 11615 1.171 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 3100 100.0 54.8 3.55 2586 98.2 49751 12069 1.220
Winchester WXR 100.0 54.2 3.52 2586 94.6 45976 12949 1.229
Bofors RP15 100.0 54.2 3.52 2586 94.6 45976 12949 1.229
Somchem S361 95.5 55.8 3.62 2585 94.1 52667 11800 1.167 ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 12 100.0 58.5 3.79 2571 92.8 44730 13149 1.232
PB Clermont PCL 517 100.0 58.5 3.79 2566 92.5 44478 13130 1.236
Vihtavuori N150 *C 92.6 47.9 3.10 2565 100.0 52667 10531 1.178 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 *T 100.0 53.3 3.45 2550 92.5 47587 12051 1.205
IMR 7828 100.0 53.3 3.45 2544 91.9 44142 12667 1.240
Bofors RP5 NT *C ~approximation 100.0 55.9 3.62 2538 89.8 46304 12295 1.215
Vihtavuori N165 *C 100.0 54.2 3.52 2530 95.7 47050 11682 1.223
ADI AP 2214 100.0 56.9 3.69 2529 91.8 44530 12499 1.232
ReloadSwiss RS 76 *C 100.0 59.0 3.82 2527 93.8 40254 13873 1.296
Alliant Reloder-25 *C 100.0 54.5 3.53 2527 97.0 41368 12832 1.282
Vihtavuori N160 *C 100.0 52.6 3.41 2522 93.7 48119 11484 1.208
Vihtavuori N565 *C 100.0 56.3 3.65 2513 91.1 42227 12862 1.294
Lovex S071 100.0 51.9 3.36 2432 96.2 41382 11453 1.333
Norma MRP 2 *C 100.0 54.8 3.55 2428 89.7 37366 12522 1.357
Bofors RP30 100.0 54.8 3.55 2428 89.7 37366 12522 1.357
IMR 7977 Enduron *C*T 100.0 54.2 3.52 2415 83.1 45837 10644 1.238
ReloadSwiss RS 80 *C 100.0 59.5 3.86 2392 85.0 35739 12754 1.379
Vihtavuori N570 *C 100.0 57.8 3.75 2386 80.6 35899 12676 1.375
Hodgdon H1000 *T 100.0 54.2 3.52 2375 88.2 37686 11602 1.337
ADI AR 2217 100.0 54.2 3.52 2375 88.2 37686 11602 1.337
ADI AR 2225 100.0 55.1 3.57 2314 89.4 33094 12075 1.417
Hodgdon Retumbo 100.0 55.1 3.57 2314 89.4 33094 12075 1.417
Alliant Reloder-33 *C 100.0 59.5 3.86 2302 78.7 33275 12079 1.425
Lovex D100 100.0 59.0 3.82 2276 76.0 36841 10415 1.370
Shooters World BMG 100.0 59.0 3.82 2276 76.0 36841 10415 1.370
Vihtavuori N170 *C 100.0 54.2 3.52 2247 79.6 34425 10525 1.426
Vihtavuori 24N41 *C 100.0 58.4 3.79 2239 71.9 34406 10534 1.399
ADI AR 2218 100.0 58.4 3.79 2224 72.6 32357 11303 1.438
Accurate LRT 100.0 58.3 3.78 2218 69.8 32835 10701 1.425
Norma 217 *C 100.0 54.0 3.50 2216 85.3 28779 11711 1.505
IMR 8133 Enduron *C*T 100.0 53.7 3.48 2202 82.3 29137 11278 1.497
Hodgdon H870 100.0 56.6 3.67 2181 77.2 29010 11176 1.499
Alliant Reloder-50 *C 100.0 59.3 3.84 2109 71.7 26244 11018 1.585
Bofors 12,7mmRA NC1214 Lot20115087 100.0 58.0 3.76 2099 66.1 27969 10259 1.576
Hodgdon 50BMG 100.0 55.7 3.61 2079 63.6 28489 9487 1.533
Hodgdon US 869 100.0 58.4 3.79 2072 67.0 28108 9549 1.543
Somchem 12.7-0 100.0 56.6 3.67 2061 64.0 29451 8889 1.497
SNPE Vectan SP 13 100.0 56.0 3.63 2030 71.3 25748 9502 1.579
Accurate 8700 100.0 57.2 3.71 1989 68.2 25313 9140 1.613
PB Clermont PCL 513/520/9520 100.0 56.0 3.63 1973 67.7 24360 9052 1.616
Vihtavuori 20N29 *C 100.0 59.0 3.82 1958 64.8 24033 9090 1.649
NC A3502 ,test only 100.0 53.7 3.48 1847 46.3 23887 6671 1.658
TLP A 502(RH) ,test only 100.0 53.7 3.48 1826 50.1 22291 7063 1.706
ADI AS 25 BP 100.0 18.5 1.20 1623 100.0 35798 3349 1.500
IMR TrailBoss 100.0 18.5 1.20 1623 100.0 35798 3349 1.500
V1734 7-multiperf ,test only 100.0 53.7 3.48 1327 23.1 12909 3287 2.156
31 July 2020, 12:26
ScrumbagThanks very much, looks like RS70 is the place to be.
31 July 2020, 13:20
Ratwhiskersl'm sorry l came upon this too late Scrummy or l'd have run the numbers for you.
My 7x57lmp' really likes RS70 and has a relative case capacity, so as you are thinking it may very well be the place to begin your testing.
31 July 2020, 17:18
Scrumbagquote:
Originally posted by Ratwhiskers:
l'm sorry l came upon this too late Scrummy or l'd have run the numbers for you.
My 7x57lmp' really likes RS70 and has a relative case capacity, so as you are thinking it may very well be the place to begin your testing.
Hi there,
7x57 isn't exactly a common one! Much run very close to 284W I'm guessing?
Scrummy
01 August 2020, 20:07
RatwhiskersAye up Scrummy.
l've found through experience that my 7x57imp runs very close to 7x64 ballistically, and RS70 seems to be my "go to" for anything much above 140's.
l was looking at a set of 7x64 dies recently and thinking Hmm..... Both are great Plains Game rounds in their own right, but the 64 does have an edge over the 57 but not the improved, l just went that way for the hell of it at the time.
Ratty.
....
28 August 2020, 00:35
AtkinsonIts easy to duplicate the 7x64 with a 7x57 in a good Win. or Mauser with either CFE-223 or H414, and brass is much easier to come by..I shot the 7x64, 284, and .280 a good deal and finally settled on the 7x57 for the handloader for a number of reasons..much of which showed up on my chronographs..
Ray Atkinson
Atkinson Hunting Adventures
10 Ward Lane,
Filer, Idaho, 83328
208-731-4120
rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com
28 August 2020, 17:16
JiriI set for 55k PSI and 110% (compressed load):
Cartridge : 7 x 64 Brenneke
Bullet : .284, 160, Sierra TMK 7660
Useable Case Capaci: 59.495 grain H2O = 3.863 cm3
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.307 inch = 84.00 mm
Barrel Length : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm
Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 55000 psi, or 379 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 110 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !
33 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 60%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm m/s % MPa MPa ms
--------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------
ReloadSwiss RS 76 *C*T 107.9 63.7 4.13 929 100.0 379 78 1.267 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-26 *C 100.5 59.3 3.84 908 100.0 379 74 1.280 ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP *C 101.0 57.8 3.75 898 99.6 379 74 1.281 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-25 *C 108.9 59.4 3.85 898 100.0 379 72 1.272 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560 *C 102.6 57.5 3.72 893 97.2 379 75 1.279 ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 70 *C 97.6 57.0 3.69 892 99.8 379 72 1.271 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 517 105.7 61.9 4.01 892 98.0 379 75 1.271 ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 12 105.5 61.8 4.00 892 98.1 379 74 1.271 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO 103.1 60.1 3.89 890 95.8 379 76 1.285 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N565 *C 107.7 60.7 3.93 889 97.4 379 75 1.298 ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 60 *T 91.2 52.5 3.40 887 100.0 379 66 1.276 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA15 *C 102.8 57.0 3.69 887 98.7 379 73 1.285 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation 102.8 57.0 3.69 887 98.7 379 73 1.285 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22 *C 102.8 57.0 3.69 887 98.7 379 73 1.285 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC 101.1 57.0 3.69 887 97.5 379 73 1.272 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 106.9 57.0 3.69 887 97.5 379 73 1.272 ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 80 *C 110.0 65.4 4.24 887 95.7 354 79 1.313 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP15 105.6 57.3 3.71 887 98.6 379 73 1.286 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WXR 105.6 57.3 3.71 887 98.6 379 73 1.286 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP30 110.0 60.3 3.91 883 97.6 358 75 1.315 ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP 2 *C 110.0 60.3 3.91 883 97.6 358 75 1.315 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2213 101.9 56.5 3.66 882 97.4 379 72 1.272 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N570 *C 110.0 63.6 4.12 882 92.0 348 80 1.322
Alliant Reloder-23 *C *T 105.5 56.6 3.67 882 100.0 379 66 1.290 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum 103.0 61.5 3.99 881 99.1 379 70 1.277 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-17 *T 90.2 51.9 3.36 880 100.0 379 65 1.285 ! Near Maximum !
Elcho 17 90.2 51.9 3.36 880 100.0 379 65 1.285 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AP 2214 106.0 60.4 3.91 879 97.6 379 71 1.271 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-16 *C *T 94.8 50.6 3.28 878 100.0 379 65 1.279 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R905 103.9 56.6 3.67 875 97.1 379 71 1.288 ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 62 93.5 53.7 3.48 873 100.0 379 66 1.306 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 518 95.5 54.1 3.50 872 99.7 379 68 1.293 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209 98.6 53.8 3.49 872 98.5 379 69 1.279 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19 *C 99.1 54.4 3.52 872 98.5 379 69 1.288 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 511 91.7 53.5 3.47 872 99.8 379 67 1.294 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter 94.7 53.6 3.48 871 99.8 379 67 1.294 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S365 96.6 52.7 3.41 871 100.0 379 62 1.302 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5 NT *C ~approximation 105.4 58.9 3.82 870 95.2 379 71 1.278 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP14 ~approximation 99.9 54.8 3.55 870 98.5 379 68 1.288 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760 89.3 51.8 3.36 870 99.5 379 67 1.297 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414 89.3 51.8 3.36 870 99.5 379 67 1.297 ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP *C 94.1 51.1 3.31 865 100.0 379 64 1.303 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP19 ~approximation 94.2 51.1 3.31 865 100.0 379 64 1.303 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550 *C 91.4 51.2 3.32 865 100.0 379 65 1.308 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H1000 *T 110.0 59.7 3.87 865 97.0 361 70 1.300 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2217 110.0 59.7 3.87 865 97.0 361 70 1.300 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350 93.6 51.3 3.33 864 100.0 379 64 1.321 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 ~approximation 97.0 53.2 3.45 864 98.3 379 67 1.290 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA4 97.0 53.2 3.45 864 98.3 379 67 1.290 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204 *C 94.0 53.2 3.45 864 98.3 379 67 1.290 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC *T 100.5 55.7 3.61 864 96.7 379 68 1.286 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 *T 104.5 55.7 3.61 864 96.7 379 68 1.286 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon CFE223 *C 85.1 50.9 3.30 863 100.0 379 63 1.299 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S385 99.4 55.1 3.57 862 99.1 379 66 1.310 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831 98.9 51.9 3.36 860 100.0 379 63 1.312 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 3100 102.9 56.5 3.66 860 99.8 379 65 1.323 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S071 108.8 56.5 3.66 860 99.8 379 65 1.323 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780 98.1 56.7 3.68 859 98.4 379 66 1.294 ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 11 87.8 49.7 3.22 858 100.0 379 61 1.302 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 NT *C ~approximation 94.7 52.7 3.42 858 99.3 379 65 1.305 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-33 *C 110.0 65.4 4.24 858 91.1 325 78 1.366
Vihtavuori N165 *C 104.8 56.9 3.68 857 98.9 379 65 1.298 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Big Game 84.9 49.6 3.21 856 100.0 379 61 1.303 ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 52 85.4 48.3 3.13 855 100.0 379 60 1.311 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R904 97.7 52.8 3.42 854 97.4 379 65 1.294 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4895 84.4 46.3 3.00 854 100.0 379 61 1.311 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V 96.8 51.3 3.33 853 100.0 379 59 1.302 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S070 93.7 50.8 3.29 852 99.5 379 64 1.315 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4350 *T 96.3 51.6 3.35 852 99.1 379 63 1.298 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4350 94.5 51.5 3.34 852 99.1 379 63 1.298 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA11 85.2 46.7 3.03 852 100.0 379 61 1.311 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP11 ~approximation 85.2 46.7 3.03 852 100.0 379 61 1.311 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-15 *C 85.2 46.7 3.03 852 100.0 379 61 1.311 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4955 Enduron *C*T 101.2 54.0 3.50 852 96.9 379 65 1.294 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H380 86.7 48.6 3.15 851 100.0 379 62 1.315 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203B *C 85.6 47.0 3.04 851 100.0 379 60 1.313 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP7 NT *C ~approximation 88.7 49.1 3.18 850 99.6 379 62 1.285 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N160 *C 104.4 54.9 3.56 850 97.3 379 64 1.297 ! Near Maximum !