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Which bolt action has the quietest cycle?
08 April 2015, 23:30
kaprotaWhich bolt action has the quietest cycle?
One of the advantages of a semi automatic rifle is the noise of getting the next round into the chamber is included in the bang of the shot. Some game seem to not know which direction the shot came from and are somewhat disoriented for a second. The echo of the shot is the last thing the animals hear and they might run in any direction if they are missed or they were in a group and not the intended target. Of course if the animal is dead, it may not of heard anything and is not of any matter in this question.
The remaining animals are on high alert and the metalic clicks of the bolt cycling will help the animals locate your position no matter how carefully/slowly you reload a shell into a bolt action.
I do own a lot of CRF actions but even my post 64 mod 70 is hard to reload quietly.
09 April 2015, 00:02
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09 April 2015, 00:13
rnoviQuietest second shot would be a double rifle.
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09 April 2015, 00:45
xausaMy solution to that problem is to cycle the action immediately after the shot is fired, when presumably the animal is still deafened from the noise.
I once "harvested" three does in a row from my soybean field at a range of around 200 yards. Of the original three, the other two simply stood and stared at the third as it lay on the ground. Ditto for the third. I was using my 7X57 built on a G33/40 action, also not a particularly silently operating action.
Sauer 200/202 is pretty quiet.
09 April 2015, 03:59
BiebsYes, the Sauer would get my vote as well.
10 April 2015, 06:21
Lamarthe 30-40 krag is super quiet too.
more of a schlock noise than anything metallic.
10 April 2015, 08:26
RMillerI guess unless you don't always hunt with one in the chamber. Then which action type is quieter to chamber that first round.
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10 April 2015, 16:39
p dog shooterI guess if one is slow on the reload. A good bolt gunner has a 2nd round chambered as the gun is coming back down out of recoil.
It never leaves his shoulder during the reload.
10 April 2015, 17:28
MikelravyI would put this pretty far down on the list of things I was looking for in a new rifle.
10 April 2015, 18:26
olarmyquote:
Originally posted by Mikelravy:
I would put this pretty far down on the list of things I was looking for in a new rifle.
Yep
11 April 2015, 06:15
ted thornI only have 4 manufacturers to comment on
Ruger MK2
Kimber NY
Remington 700
Browning A Bolt
Hands down 100% without a doubt the Browning A-bolt
Butter smooth and quiet
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11 April 2015, 10:57
416RigbyHunterYour question has never entered my mind?! I have never given it any thought as to which rifle is the quietest, but I have and do shoot many animals in mobs, one after the other. I have always found many deer will either stand around, or mill around, a fallen member after a shot. They will also continue to feed after only a few minutes after a shot if not aware of the hunters presence. Your assumption that the animal hearing a shot will click that it is from a human exbounds arrogance I haven't seen in a while.
Do you see many animals, apart from domestic pets, fleeing from thunder, road noise or other sources of regular occurrence? I certainly don't where I live and hunt. I worked for several years on a dairy farm, every milking, morning and afternoon, we had deer come in with the cattle to feed in the troughs, tractor, quads and farm vehicles didn't spook them one bit, but a human voice had them heading for the hills in no time flat.
Animals don't always affiliate mechanical noises with danger.
Cheers.
11 April 2015, 20:04
kaprota416 My question was not the shot noise but the sound made by cyling a bolt action to load a cartridge. These Texas deer i have been shooting at get kind of concerned at the initial report of the gun not to mention the thump of the bullet's impact on their friend that was standing 10 feet away. I'm not talking about a long shot where you are clearly outside of the deer's hearing.
Sorry - I didn't mean to exbound on ya.
12 April 2015, 00:29
jens poulsenquote:
Originally posted by rnovi:
Quietest second shot would be a double rifle.
I have several books from preWW1 where British sportsman Express their disgust for repetingrifles because there are cheap and all noisy.
I would say a Sauer 80/90 is very very smooth...or perhaps a Mannlicher Schönauer.
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12 April 2015, 01:39
9.3 X 75RI'll second jens on the Mannlicher/Schoenauer but as another poster mentioned, the Krag has to be close.
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12 April 2015, 01:41
olarmyquote:
Originally posted by 416RigbyHunter:
Your question has never entered my mind?! I have never given it any thought as to which rifle is the quietest, but I have and do shoot many animals in mobs, one after the other. I have always found many deer will either stand around, or mill around, a fallen member after a shot. They will also continue to feed after only a few minutes after a shot if not aware of the hunters presence. Your assumption that the animal hearing a shot will click that it is from a human exbounds arrogance I haven't seen in a while.
Do you see many animals, apart from domestic pets, fleeing from thunder, road noise or other sources of regular occurrence? I certainly don't where I live and hunt. I worked for several years on a dairy farm, every milking, morning and afternoon, we had deer come in with the cattle to feed in the troughs, tractor, quads and farm vehicles didn't spook them one bit, but a human voice had them heading for the hills in no time flat.
Animals don't always affiliate mechanical noises with danger.
Cheers.
I can't speak to animals or conditions in N E Victoria, Australia. But I can assure you, sir, that a group of WT deer or sounder of hogs, where I hunt, will instantly vanish into the brush, after a shot, and not wait around to see where it came from. Perhaps your assumption that animals all around the world behave as those in your little corner of it "exbounds with arrogance".
12 April 2015, 11:32
416RigbyHunterquote:
Originally posted by olarmy:
quote:
Originally posted by 416RigbyHunter:
Your question has never entered my mind?! I have never given it any thought as to which rifle is the quietest, but I have and do shoot many animals in mobs, one after the other. I have always found many deer will either stand around, or mill around, a fallen member after a shot. They will also continue to feed after only a few minutes after a shot if not aware of the hunters presence. Your assumption that the animal hearing a shot will click that it is from a human exbounds arrogance I haven't seen in a while.
Do you see many animals, apart from domestic pets, fleeing from thunder, road noise or other sources of regular occurrence? I certainly don't where I live and hunt. I worked for several years on a dairy farm, every milking, morning and afternoon, we had deer come in with the cattle to feed in the troughs, tractor, quads and farm vehicles didn't spook them one bit, but a human voice had them heading for the hills in no time flat.
Animals don't always affiliate mechanical noises with danger.
Cheers.
I can't speak to animals or conditions in N E Victoria, Australia. But I can assure you, sir, that a group of WT deer or sounder of hogs, where I hunt, will instantly vanish into the brush, after a shot, and not wait around to see where it came from. Perhaps your assumption that animals all around the world behave as those in your little corner of it "exbounds with arrogance".
I did not say that ALL animals EVERYWHERE will stand around after a shot, I only mentioned that I have seen them do so in 20+ years of shooting and hunting, hogs, goats, foxes, rabbits, buffalo and deer, just to mention a few.
If you don't find the question arrogant, more to you, sir.
Personally I dont think animals hear a quick reload. I hunt with one up, mostly.
Have seen A bear hear the click of A safety, know what it is, and be gone. Hunted that bear for two seasons. Will never forget him. I was close twice, but never got A shot. Sometimes the ones you remember most are the ones you didn't get.
13 April 2015, 07:07
JGRaiderTikka....slickest action known to mankind.
13 April 2015, 08:44
BvekenyaMannlicher Schönauer by a country mile!
13 April 2015, 17:54
Andre MertensAnother vote for the Sauer 202.
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20 April 2015, 21:12
AtkinsonIts never been a problem with me, not even when culling animals in a group..I believe it to be a more or less perceived problem. Perhaps if the sound of the shot doesn't drive them off then I don't believe the sound of reloading would
It may be problematic in elephant shooting, or so I have been told by those who know profess to know such things, and considering the short range elephants are shot at, it could be, but even heavy breathing might give you away to anything with ears that big!
the Krag is the smoothest of all actions.
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20 April 2015, 21:26
PondoroI am torn between a Krag and a Mannlicher-Schönauer on this one..
23 April 2015, 15:51
Rule 303quote:
Originally posted by Pondoro:
I am torn between a Krag and a Mannlicher-Schönauer on this one..
Good choices but I will go with the Shultz and Larsen.
24 April 2015, 05:52
lawndartI have owned or used just about every brand out there. My model 1903 6.5 MS carbine was the quietest, followed by my Sakos.
I should just sell what I own and buy a Sauer 202, then extra barrels. Not just for the quiet, but for everything about them. OT, sorry.
24 April 2015, 19:25
mdstewartA Sauer 202 or earlier version is the quietest and smoothest action I've seen, and I've owned them all at one time or another. The only problem with the Sauers, that ugly stock design. Functional yes, but butt ugly. Even a great piece of wood doesn't cover up butt ugly.
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25 April 2015, 05:33
Cliff Lylequote:
Originally posted by Biebs:
Yes, the Sauer would get my vote as well.
agreed. The Sauer is the most quiet I've ever heard.
25 April 2015, 08:17
333_OKHMannlicher Schoenauer 1950
Colt Sauer
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The Champlin I handled once was super soft cycle and quiet too
28 April 2015, 02:14
kaprotawfh knows what I am talking about with his bear. That one little click that sends them off.( He must have been fairly close. )
This concern does't seem important and it isn't in many situations... untill it happens to you.
I don't see a lot of Sauers in South Texas.
Thanks for the input. Kaprota
02 May 2015, 12:56
drewhenrytntI have handled and fired a few SAKO rifles that were "slick as wet ice". Don't recall a great deal of noise generated.
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