9.3x62 bullet ?

12 January 2009, 23:10

Winchester 69

Assuming 2500 fps is muzzle velocity, the TSX will be marginal at impact velocity. Generally, it is recommended for higher velocities to assure expansion. The Partition will expand at lower velocities and is the recommended bullet for your application.

The January, 2009, issue of Rifle magazine has an article on this topic.

12 January 2009, 23:12

vapodog

The TSX would get my vote.....but if the gun shoots 250 grain and (something close to) 300 grain bullets reasonably to the same point I'd opt for a 250 Accubond for the plains game and a 300 (or close) A-Frame for the buff.

12 January 2009, 23:30

Mauser9,3x62

Hi,
I take for my 9,3x62 Mauser the Brenneke Tog 247 grains with Rottweil R903 64 grains

12 January 2009, 23:41

Steffen

both loads sound hot to me, especially if you're going to africa

i'm with winchester 69 on this one, if we were talking 250 TSX or A-Frame on the other hand...

13 January 2009, 00:04

mstarling

A rational load for my 9,3x62 CZ American turned out to be the 286 gr Nosler Partition at 2425 fps. Doesn't seem likely to me that you'll get 2500 fps unless you're using a 26" bbl.

Worked in South Africa on Impala, Warthog, Wildebeast, Kudu and Zebra. Killed like the Hammer of Thor! No recovered projectiles.

Has delivered exemplary service in North America on Whitetails and piggies. Again, no recovered projectiles.

No need to change the load!

13 January 2009, 03:59

Larry Sellers

I am getting approx. 2430fps out of my CZ 550FS 9.3 X 62 with Barnes .286 gr TSX and Solids, 57.5 grains of Varget. These two print within 1/2 inch of each other at 100 yards and will be the loads of choice for my upcoming trip to Moz. Croc, Hippo, Sable, Leopard and anything else that pops up. Plan on using the solids for hippo and croc, TSX for the others.

Larry Sellers
SCI Life Member

13 January 2009, 04:54

Thanks all !

Larry when is your trip ?
I also was considering the barnes banded solid.
Seems like you made my starting choice easier.
We are not going over until Sept.
I am shooting CZ550 american and just love it,
started with factory norma oryx 286 gr. .6 inch groups at 100 yds but cant seem to find steady supply of ammo. hence the barnes bullets and some reloading.
Good luck !

13 January 2009, 05:40

tradewinds

quote:
Assuming 2500 fps is muzzle velocity, the TSX will be marginal at impact velocity.

That is funny

13 January 2009, 06:56

Larry Sellers

Ej - We are leaving New Mexico on August 28th and will be in Beira, Moz on the 30th. Overnight there and on to camp on the 31st. Then it's 14 straight days of hunting, back to Biera, scheduled a day for off shore fishing than head for home on Sept. 17th What's your schedule?

Larry Sellers
SCI Life Member

quote:
Originally posted by Ej:
Thanks all !

Larry when is your trip ?
I also was considering the barnes banded solid.
Seems like you made my starting choice easier.
We are not going over until Sept.
I am shooting CZ550 american and just love it,
started with factory norma oryx 286 gr. .6 inch groups at 100 yds but cant seem to find steady supply of ammo. hence the barnes bullets and some reloading.
Good luck !

13 January 2009, 07:06

Charles_Helm

I like the 250-grain North Fork soft on plains game but it would not be my first choice for buff.

13 January 2009, 08:44

Winchester 69

quote:
Originally posted by tradewinds:
quote:
Assuming 2500 fps is muzzle velocity, the TSX will be marginal at impact velocity.

That is funny

I'm not presenting myself as an authority, the reason for my citing the magazine article, Calibers for Dangerous Game by Ganyana, a previous contributor to this forum. To quote:

"There are many good bullets out there, and it is simply a case of matching the rate of expansion of the bullets to the impact velocity. For rounds that have a high impact velocity, like the .375, I have a distinct preference for monometal hollowpoints like the Barnes TSX. For slightly slower rounds like the 9.3 or.416, the Woodleigh protected points and Nosler Partitions are fantastic...."

The problem with the TSX's is that they need a high impact velocity to expand reliably. The article has an explanation of the effect of non-expansion when hunting buffalo.

My apologies for not having initially presented the quote.

13 January 2009, 09:03

GSSP

66 gr of Ramshot Big Game will get you 2500 fps in a 23.?" CZ550 barrel will get their with plenty of umph!

13 January 2009, 09:51

ozhunter

For Buffalo with a fast moving 9.3mm.
Of the two I would use the 286grn X. That is, if it shoots well.
The 300grn Swift-A would be my first choice though.
I would not use a Nosler Partition for Buffalo.
Woodleigh 286grn & 320grn Solids are a great option in 9.3x62.
I have had good results with this caliber at a slower speed of 2340fps, but would not call this a flat shooting load.( Great for bushvelt conditions).

13 January 2009, 10:48

Scott King

quote:
Originally posted by Larry Sellers:
I am getting approx. 2430fps out of my CZ 550FS 9.3 X 62 with Barnes .286 gr TSX and Solids, 57.5 grains of Varget. Larry Sellers
SCI Life Member

In my experience a very good load.

If I had my way I'd be taking a 9.3x62 I had put together with that load this August for leopard Buffalo with Mokore Safari. That twit Mark Young stole the rifle and I think he's taking it to Zambia. I hate him.

13 January 2009, 11:18

mouse93

quote:
Originally posted by ozhunter:
For Buffalo with a fast moving 9.3mm.
Of the two I would use the 286grn X. That is, if it shoots well.
The 300grn Swift-A would be my first choice though.
I would not use a Nosler Partition for Buffalo.
Woodleigh 286grn & 320grn Solids are a great option in 9.3x62.
I have had good results with this caliber at a slower speed of 2340fps, but would not call this a flat shooting load.( Great for bushvelt conditions).

+1

My 2c - here are a couple of TSX's

286gr from 9,3x74R going 2300 (enough velocity IMO):

250gr from 9,3x62 going 2500 - however I'd push it at least 2600 to get most out of it:

IMO for buffalo fully opened TSX opens too much for deepest penetration so A-frame might be better?

My choice for buff in 9,3 is 286gr CDP (sort of cross between the TSX and A-frame)

From 9,3x62:

And 9,3x74R:

13 January 2009, 11:04

458Win

As much as I like the TSX bullets I have discovered the same thing as Charlie Sisk did - the 286gr Nosler Partitions9.3 bullets usually out penetrate the 286 TSX due to their partitions being a bit farther forward than the smaller caliber partitions.
I have had great luck with the 286 gr partitions in my 9.3x62.

13 January 2009, 13:41

Mauser9,3x62

http://www.brenneke-munition.de/cms/72.html?&L=1

13 January 2009, 13:44

Mauser9,3x62

http://www.brenneke-munition.d...derladedaten_TOG.pdf

13 January 2009, 14:11

Andre Mertens

quote:
Originally posted by mouse93:
My choice for buff in 9,3 is 286gr CDP (sort of cross between the TSX and A-frame)
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I'm not surprised as a PH friend in Africa says the same regarding buffalo. Personally, I used the CDP in 9,3x74R and 9,6x62 for a few seasons of drive hunting wild boar. I missed several opportunities of shooting "doublés" (=pairs), having to double on the same animal to bring it down. CDP bullets demonstrated lots of penetration (even lengthwise) but lacked stopping power due to poor expansion. I've switched to softer Norma bullets since and boars are rolling again when solidly hit.

13 January 2009, 17:44

Larry,

we are leaving Dulles 9-17 and returning 10-7
possibly going to Moz if any DG quota left.
playing that by ear. otherwise PG hunt in RSA
Black + Blue Wilde and Zebra as primary goal.
Targets of oppty always welcome though.
Good Luck on your trip.
Ej

16 January 2009, 02:28

Dave Bush

quote:
Originally posted by Winchester 69:
quote:
Originally posted by tradewinds:
quote:
Assuming 2500 fps is muzzle velocity, the TSX will be marginal at impact velocity.

That is funny

I'm not presenting myself as an authority, the reason for my citing the magazine article, Calibers for Dangerous Game by Ganyana, a previous contributor to this forum. To quote:

"There are many good bullets out there, and it is simply a case of matching the rate of expansion of the bullets to the impact velocity. For rounds that have a high impact velocity, like the .375, I have a distinct preference for monometal hollowpoints like the Barnes TSX. For slightly slower rounds like the 9.3 or.416, the Woodleigh protected points and Nosler Partitions are fantastic...."

The problem with the TSX's is that they need a high impact velocity to expand reliably. The article has an explanation of the effect of non-expansion when hunting buffalo.

My apologies for not having initially presented the quote.

Winchester69:

I have done a lot of testing with two 9.3s, a Blaser R93 and a CZ. I shoot 286 grain Woodleigh protected points in the CZ but in the Blaser I shoot 250 TSX bullets. If you drop down to the 250 grain TSX, you can shoot them at 2500 fps and they will open up and penetrate like crazy. In my tests at the range with wet phone books, they penetrated as well or better than the 300 grain Swifts. There are a number of guys here who have had them shoot completly through a cape buffalo on a braodside shot. If I was using the TSX in the 9.3, I would go with the 250 grain rather than the 286 grainer. Just my two cents.

Dave

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