280AI muledeer/elk bullet

26 December 2008, 17:18

taylorce1

I'd think the 140 Nosler Accubond might be a good choice, as well as the 140 Barnes TTSX. Then you always have the good old standby 140 grain Nosler Partition. I don't use the .280 AI but I load the 140 grain Nosler BT for my B-in-law and his .280, with outstanding accuracy. He uses this load for pronghorn and mule deer. The Accubond and BT usually have the same POI from what people have posted, but I haven't used the Accubond's yet.

I've killed a few elk with with the .270 Win and 150 grain Partition out to 250 yards. I don't think an elk could tell the difference of being hit with a 140 grain bullet or 160 grain bullet. I wouldn't use lighter than a 140 however out of a .280 rifle.

26 December 2008, 19:57

ted thorn

The .280 and 140 grn bullets are made for each other.....and the Nosler 140 grn Accubond is a great bullet.

26 December 2008, 20:54

Jcchartboy

quote:
Originally posted by ted thorn:
The .280 and 140 grn bullets are made for each other.....and the Nosler 140 grn Accubond is a great bullet.

You can say that again...More importantly Nosler has taken it to the next level with their new .280 AI factory loads...

Just to give you some idea of the level of accuracy availble from this ammo's....Below is the results of the very first three shots of this ammo I ever fired....(100yds)

26 December 2008, 22:59

Oldguns

Jc...what rifle did you shoot to get that group?

26 December 2008, 23:07

MileHighShooter

I'd take a look at the Hornady 154 InterBond...mostly because midway has them DIRT cheap. They're listed as "MidwayUSA" bullets, and are slightly blemished on the jackets. 22$ for 100. Good BC, good SD and should give you a good balance of velocity and weight for your intended purposes and ranges.

27 December 2008, 08:30

JD338

160 gr AB is my go to bullet in my 280 AI.

Accuracy with RL 22 is excellent.

JD338

27 December 2008, 08:47

seafire2

I'd reach for a 160 grain Speer myself as first pick...

If I was in a champaign mode, then I'd go with a 160 grain partition...

a 154 grain Hornady SP has no flies on it and will certainly do the job also...

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27 December 2008, 09:30

Blair338/378

quote:
Originally posted by Jcchartboy:
quote:
Originally posted by ted thorn:
The .280 and 140 grn bullets are made for each other.....and the Nosler 140 grn Accubond is a great bullet.

You can say that again...More importantly Nosler has taken it to the next level with their new .280 AI factory loads...

Just to give you some idea of the level of accuracy availble from this ammo's....Below is the results of the very first three shots of this ammo I ever fired....(100yds)

JC

What barrel has that gun got in it?!!!

Fantastic shooting!!!

27 December 2008, 13:36

Dr. Lou

For mule deer I'd use the 140 AB, and the 160 AB for elk. One day I'll try the latest Barnes tipped bullets. Lou

28 December 2008, 03:57

Doc

168 Berger VLD and either 4831SC, H1000, or Re22.

28 December 2008, 13:08

fredj338

I find the cup/core bullets a bit soft at even 280 speeds. The Speer is a great deer bullet, but I think a bit light for elk close. Add another 100fps+ w/ the AI & I would go 160gr NP or Swift. If you like Barnes, drop to 140gr & you should be good @ 3100fps.

29 December 2008, 04:19

Thomas Jones

If you are looking for 1 bullet for both deer and elk, I think I would dtart with a 160 grain TSX or a 160 grain acubond.
Don't know If i would go for a 400 yards shot on an elk though, unless I was reall well set up with a an elk that was side on, not spooked , there was nearly no wind and I had a perfect rest.
Thats a long shot .
...tj3006

29 December 2008, 04:19

Thomas Jones

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Thomas Jones:
If you are looking for 1 bullet for both deer and elk, I think I would start with a 160 grain TSX or a 160 grain acubond.
Don't know If i would go for a 400 yards shot on an elk though, unless I was really well set up with a an elk that was side on, not spooked , there was nearly no wind and I had a perfect rest.
Thats a long shot .
...tj3006

29 December 2008, 04:26

Trax

quote:
Originally posted by Blair338/378:
What barrel has that gun got in it?!!!
Fantastic shooting!!!

+1 ...and who barreled/built that accurate rig?.

...and im refering to both Jcchartboys & JD338's rig.

29 December 2008, 05:06

Woodrow S

The 160gr Nosler Accubond is a top contender for that job. Well constructed and darned good accuracy potential.

31 December 2008, 07:06

Jcchartboy

quote:

What barrel has that gun got in it?!!!

Fantastic shooting!!!

Hey Guys,

Sorry for the delayed response. The rifle is a Kenny Jarrett "Coup de Mort". I purchased the gun used about a year ago for about 1/2 of what the gentleman originally paid to have it built in 2003. As were almost all of Jarrett's gun at the time this gun is built on a Remington 700 action.

JC

I took this doe while stalking in the thick mesquite brush of Texas last month at about 100yds with this rifle.

31 December 2008, 17:13

Dr. Lou

I like the 140 grain Accubond! I want to try the 140 TSX someday, I hear it's a great bullet. Lou

01 January 2009, 21:06

rickt300

160 grain Speer Hotcor is a fine bullet. 160 grain Partition is first choice though.

05 January 2009, 07:21

Tx6BR

I am shooting 140 AB's in my 280. I wouldn't hesitate punching an elk with it. I'm already taking 250+ lbs whitetails with it in pretty open prarie country. I have it loaded max with 56gr IMR4350.

10 January 2009, 04:45

splattermatic

i am using the same load, of 56.0 grains of imr4350, but using a 140 grain barnes tipped tsx.
what's your velo ? i haven't chrono'd it yet.

hope this works.

here's a pic of a cow elk i took decmeber 6th at a bit over 250 yards and i.
broadside and blew right thru her, she ran maybe 75 yards and fell over, steam blowing out her sides as she went.

and the damage the 140 ttsx did to her lungs.

21 January 2009, 01:16

ar corey

Barnes is now making the 7mm "Tipped" TSX in 150 grain for 2009:

http://www.barnesbullets.com/s...previd=3&prevstart=0

This will be my 1 gun, 1 bullet weight only load for everything. I hunt mostly mule deer and elk. Perfect bullet for my needs. Hoping to get about 3150 out of this combination(7mm Rem. Magnum)

22 January 2009, 20:02

FN in Montana

I've used the 150 gr Nosler partitions on a mess of deer and elk.In both a standard .280 and the AI. The 150 gr .284" compares very favorably to a 180 gr .308" slug. I've never had any sort of failure from 90 to 400+ yds.

The majority of my deer and elk are taken on a series of large irrigated hayfields with sparse timber along the edges. Ranges tend to be long.
I like my AI though 150 extra fps probably doesn't make ALL that much difference.

FN in MT

22 January 2009, 20:07

Mark Dobrenski

I'm with Frank,

I'd use either a 140 or 150 Nozler Part or a 154 Horn. The other bullet I really like in the 7's is the 160 Sierra HPBT.

Mark D

22 January 2009, 20:45

Dewey

The standard .280 Rem. is my favourite smallbore round, I am on my thrid custom rifle so chambered and have almost all the parts for my fourth.

I have loaded various bullets and now seem to load mostly 150-160 NPs and 160 ABs and these work well on ANY BC game, at least those shot by me and a few friends. Relatively few here use a .280 Rem., most prefering the 7Mags., but, I honestly doubt that any REAL difference in "killing power" exists.

I can no longer shoot well enough to try the 400+ yd. shots some can make, so, the plain, ol' .280 Rem. works just fine for me as does it's bro' that Mark calls the ".30-06 improved", the immortal .270 Win.

A light .280R or .270W is about "perfect" for 90-95% of BC hunting and I find that I am carrying these more often as I age and my heavier rifles recoil sometimes bothers me.

22 January 2009, 21:48

fredj338

quote:
Originally posted by Dewey:
The standard .280 Rem. is my favourite smallbore round, I am on my thrid custom rifle so chambered and have almost all the parts for my fourth.

I have loaded various bullets and now seem to load mostly 150-160 NPs and 160 ABs and these work well on ANY BC game, at least those shot by me and a few friends. Relatively few here use a .280 Rem., most prefering the 7Mags., but, I honestly doubt that any REAL difference in "killing power" exists.

I can no longer shoot well enough to try the 400+ yd. shots some can make, so, the plain, ol' .280 Rem. works just fine for me as does it's bro' that Mark calls the ".30-06 improved", the immortal .270 Win.

A light .280R or .270W is about "perfect" for 90-95% of BC hunting and I find that I am carrying these more often as I age and my heavier rifles recoil sometimes bothers me.

I agree, I also shoot a 7mag & love it but it isn;t much more than I can do w/ my 280 except when it comes to 175gr bullets. That's where the various 7mags excel IMO.

23 January 2009, 00:45

ar corey

Originally posted by Dewey:

quote:
A light .280R or .270W is about "perfect" for 90-95% of BC hunting and I find that I am carrying these more often as I age and my heavier rifles recoil sometimes bothers me.

I actually find the recoil from the 7mm Rem. Magnum more pleasant to shoot than I did my 270 Win.

Perhaps the 24 vs. 22 inch barrel was a factor but the metallic concusion from the 270 blast was very irritating and the recoil was a jolting snap.

The recoil from the 7mm is more of a push and the blast is more of a boom. Actually very enjoyable gun to shoot.

23 January 2009, 02:35

vapodog

quote:
280AI muledeer/elk bullet

If one chooses to have one load for both then the 160 A-Frame gets my vote.....

Otherwise the 120 TTSX for deer and the 175 A-Frame for elk......obviously we all see things a bit differently.

23 January 2009, 02:59

MikeyB

quote:
Originally posted by MileHighShooter:
I'd take a look at the Hornady 154 InterBond...mostly because midway has them DIRT cheap. They're listed as "MidwayUSA" bullets, and are slightly blemished on the jackets. 22$ for 100. Good BC, good SD and should give you a good balance of velocity and weight for your intended purposes and ranges.

This is the one bullet I desperately wanted my 7mm Mag to shoot well. Unfortunately it hates anything over 145gr but I've loaded this bullet for a friends 7x64mm. He's a hardcore Nosler fan and wouldn't hear of me loading Hornady bullets for him. Luckily once he saw the "plastic tip" he assumed they were Noslers and sighted in and went hunting. Shot a nice cow elk, a gorgeous caribou, and a few deer with it over a season. The next spring we were at the range and he was bragging about how well his new loads were shooting as well as the great performance on game - I said "oh so those old Hornadys are working out well for you then!" then he followed up with some strong German I couldn't understand!

It's a good compromise weight, with plenty of SD to penetrate and plenty of BC to hit hard. Also, it's cheap!

23 January 2009, 12:46

Paul from nz

162amaxs.

none of you are game enough to try them tho. amaxs are awesome on deer. I've never had a deer get more than 20meters away. most just die on the spot. life just ceases to exist when u shoot amaxs