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454 casull with 340 hardcast
14 April 2004, 16:48
RMiller454 casull with 340 hardcast
I shot some with 23 grains of lil'gun and got 1280 fps.
Would you say I was loaded for bear? < !--color--> What velocity would you guys want with this bullet? < !--color--> I had expected higher velocity. This load is a piece of cake to shoot though.
Thanks.
RM
15 April 2004, 04:27
475/480I think you could safely get 1400 with that bullet.I would want more velocity for big bears .
15 April 2004, 09:38
Lar45I shoot a similar bullet out of my Taurus. What is your barrel length? I use WC820 and my best accuracy range came in around 1350fps. I'm sure I could drive them faster, but I'd rather have the better accuracy. I'm loading 26gns WC820 and 24gns 296 gives about the same velocity from my 6.5" bbl. The Taurus does have the porting, but it is still comfortable to shoot.
15 April 2004, 10:40
Lee Martin30.0 grains of H110 in a 7.5" 83 will put you around 1,600 fps (pressure approaches 60,000 CUP however).
Lee Martin
www.singleactions.com15 April 2004, 17:55
RMillerMine has a 6.5" barrel.
I think I will try for 1300+. I was thinking about 24 grains of lil'gun since I already have it.
I just am not sure that a few F.P.S. is anything to worry about. Not to low though with the gas check.
I do plan on getting some different powder though. The Hodgdon manual shows that H110 gives lower pressure with bullets heavier than 330grains.
Thanks for the load recipes.
I am not wanting to drive the bullet to max velocity just bear stomping velocity. Am I there yet?
16 April 2004, 08:04
Lar45If you plan on shooting lots, then I would suggest ordering up an 8# jug or 2 of WC820. It's about $8 a lb and works great in the 454. I really like this powder.
16 April 2004, 08:20
Paul HUnfortunately, due to Hazmat charges, milsurp powder runs closer to 20$/lb by the time you get it shipped up to Alaska, unless you order 12-16 kegs, at which point it drops down in the $12-13/lb range. If one could get buddies with cash in hand to make up a group order, it would be a great deal. Otherwise, one just lives with what the gun shops charge for new powder, and be thankful we don't have to pay non-res hunting fees, nor travel costs to get up here.
16 April 2004, 17:57
RMillerExactly what I thought. $8 dollars a pound would be wonderful.
The local store here has a sign that says "to keep things simple all powder is $24 a pound".
There is a store here that sells IMR rifle powder for 18.75 which is the lowest I have seen in years.
18 April 2004, 17:00
BBeyerJeff Bartlett sells WC820 new for 56 bucks for an 8 pounder and the pull down powder for 48 dollors. I don't know if there is an additional hazmat charge to Alaska, but if not, that would make it about eight fifty a pound. Not bad if there is no extra charge. Jeffs site is
www.gibrass.com Good luck. Bob
By the way is there an extra cost to Alaska?
18 April 2004, 21:10
RMillerThat is a cool websight. Thanks BBeyer.
I loaded my last 50 rounds of 340 grainers with 25 grains of Lil'gun. Time to practice.

21 April 2004, 09:08
Big BoreIf you are shooting a FA revolver you are loaded very light. I have load data from John Taffin that shows FOR FREEDOM ARMS REVOLVERS ONLY a max load of 32.0 gr. of H110 behind a 340 gr. NEI hard cast. I shoot a 355 gr. LBT LWNGC in my 10" FA using 31.5 gr. H110 for 1700 fps. However, I cannot stress enough that this may be dangerous in any arm other than the FA revolver. Even at 32.0 gr and 1720 fps (accuracy was not as good as the 31.5 gr. load) the cases fell from the chamber under their own weight. The start load for H110 in the FA revolver behind the 340 gr. bullet as indicated by Taffin was 22.0 gr. for 1200 fps.
21 April 2004, 16:20
RMillerI am shooting a 6.5" taurus raging bull.
23 April 2004, 10:39
Lar45I'm also shooting the 6.5" Taurus. My best accuracy came in around 1350fps. I did a test on different nose shapes in the 340gn range for accuracy.
http://members.fortunecity.com/howda/mm454.html03 May 2004, 10:52
RMillerFired a couple of the 340 with 25 grains of lil'gun over the chrony today.
1354
1360
I like it.