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any suggestions for a pistol scope?
19 January 2009, 20:32
Redhawk1any suggestions for a pistol scope?
quote:
Originally posted by Sandro:
What's the difference between the Four and the Matchdot ? (except for color and $10 in price)
Is it possible to use the Leupold VX-III 2.5-8x32mm on an handgun ? I thought
you could only use scopes with extended eyes relief.
Sandro, the Match dot has a choice of smaller dots that you can use. 2, 4,6 and 8 MOA dot sizes. All you have to do it turn the switch. You also have 11 brightness setting for each dot size.
The Four dot has dot sizes 4, 8 , 12 and 16 MOA.
You cover less of your target with smaller dots.
Also Leupold has a EER scope for pistols in the 2.5 X 8 X 32. I have one on my S&W 460 Mag barrel.
Whitworth gave you the web-site so check out the Ultra-dots.
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19 January 2009, 20:40
Sandroquote:
Originally posted by Whitworth:
Sandro, welcome to the forum! Take a look at Ultradot West's website. They give all of the specifications.
www.ultradotwest.com
Thank you ! I had not read the specifications page.
I plan to use it for target/plinking at the range (hunting with handguns is not allowed in Italy), maybe the matchdot is a better choice ?
19 January 2009, 20:47
WhitworthFor target shooting, you are probably right. I like the simplicity of the Ultradot 30 for hunting.
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19 January 2009, 20:58
Redhawk1quote:
Originally posted by Sandro:
I plan to use it for target/plinking at the range (hunting with handguns is not allowed in Italy), maybe the matchdot is a better choice ?
The Match dot will work great for your intended use.
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19 January 2009, 23:24
SandroThank you guys, I will give it a try !
20 January 2009, 02:38
KWardI have 3 2x Weaver pistol scopes on , .41 mag, .44mag. and a .480 and all have held up just fine. The little Weaver eblem on the side of the scope came off the first time I shoot the .480 but that has been the only issue.
28 January 2009, 02:26
SandroI just received my Ultradot Matchdot ! Looks great !
I ordered it from Ultradotwest and they shipped it out very fast !
I installed it on my S&W 629 using the supplied rings and sighted in using my Site Lite boresigter. Looking forward to test it at the range, unfortunately I have to wait till saturday.
Do you think I should replace the supplied rings with better ones ?
28 January 2009, 03:03
Redhawk1Sandro, you can if you want, but the Ultra-dot being so light, the supplied rings will hold up.
But that is just something you will have to decide after shooting it. My 44 Mag has the supplied rings on them. The Ultra-dot Match-dot I have on my 475 Linebaugh has Leupold 30 mm rings on them. I have a Leupold duel dovetail mount on the gun, so I could not use the supplied rings on it.
Let us know how that work out for you.
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28 January 2009, 06:04
x-caliberI like red dots but i'm terrified that when that big buck steps out I will raise my handgun and discover that I forgot to turn my scope on!
I have had good luck with Leupold 2X and 4X fixed power scopes as well as Burris 2-7's and Bushnell Elite 2-6X scopes.
28 January 2009, 06:09
WhitworthAs soon as I think I've hear something, I turn it on.......
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30 January 2009, 00:19
Sandroquote:
Originally posted by Redhawk1:
Sandro, you can if you want, but the Ultra-dot being so light, the supplied rings will hold up.
But that is just something you will have to decide after shooting it. My 44 Mag has the supplied rings on them. The Ultra-dot Match-dot I have on my 475 Linebaugh has Leupold 30 mm rings on them. I have a Leupold duel dovetail mount on the gun, so I could not use the supplied rings on it.
Let us know how that work out for you.
What kind of torque should be used for the screws ?
Leupold scopes rings usually require about 15 in*lbs but I guess it could be less for the Ultradot ?
30 January 2009, 04:07
Redhawk1I use the same as used with the Leupold rings. 15 inch pounds. It is a standard for that size screw.
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02 February 2009, 22:14
Sandroquote:
Originally posted by Sandro:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Redhawk1:
Sandro, you can if you want, but the Ultra-dot being so light, the supplied rings will hold up.
But that is just something you will have to decide after shooting it. My 44 Mag has the supplied rings on them. The Ultra-dot Match-dot I have on my 475 Linebaugh has Leupold 30 mm rings on them. I have a Leupold duel dovetail mount on the gun, so I could not use the supplied rings on it.
Let us know how that work out for you.
I tried the Ultradot at the range, 25 yards for now. It's just great. Target pickup is very fast, faster than using an optic, expecially when you're not using a bench.
2 and 4 dot sizes are the most useful in my opinion, with 4 being the one you can use succesfully with any kind of target.
I just had problems with the rings since the screws got loose after about 30 rounds (not hot loads).
I'm thinking about replacing them with better ones, still can't decide among Warne Maxima and Leupold PRW Perma rings.
Any suggestion ?
02 February 2009, 22:41
Redhawk1quote:
Originally posted by Sandro:
quote:
Originally posted by Sandro:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Redhawk1:
Sandro, you can if you want, but the Ultra-dot being so light, the supplied rings will hold up.
But that is just something you will have to decide after shooting it. My 44 Mag has the supplied rings on them. The Ultra-dot Match-dot I have on my 475 Linebaugh has Leupold 30 mm rings on them. I have a Leupold duel dovetail mount on the gun, so I could not use the supplied rings on it.
Let us know how that work out for you.
I tried the Ultradot at the range, 25 yards for now. It's just great. Target pickup is very fast, faster than using an optic, expecially when you're not using a bench.
2 and 4 dot sizes are the most useful in my opinion, with 4 being the one you can use succesfully with any kind of target.
I just had problems with the rings since the screws got loose after about 30 rounds (not hot loads).
I'm thinking about replacing them with better ones, still can't decide among Warne Maxima and Leupold PRW Perma rings.
Any suggestion ?
Both are great rings, however I do like them Warne Maxima rings the most.
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03 February 2009, 18:26
Sandroquote:
Originally posted by Redhawk1:
Both are great rings, however I do like them Warne Maxima rings the most.
Could you reccommend me a place in the USA where to order rings/optics online ?
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17 February 2009, 16:39
SandroI replaced the rings that come with the Ultradot with a pair of Warne Maxima 30mm Low.
They seems to hold very well

18 February 2009, 08:55
odohquote:
Originally posted by Whitworth:
quote:
Originally posted by Snowwolfe:
Larry's just got some of my money for the Ultradot Match Dot as well.
That's great, Snowwolfe! Let us know when you get it and what you think of it. I resisted putting one on my .475 SRH, and I can't figure out why......
Because of the ring spacing issue for thet particular model UD on the SRH

I wound up going w/a weigand base w/mine. If I had it to do all over again I think I would've went w/the setup you have.
19 February 2009, 05:32
KingfisherI know it's not a fixed power but FWIW, the 2-7x Burris on my 500 S&W has performed flawlessly for several years now. It's mounted with an aluminum Weigand base and two, count'em, two rings. Not three, or four, just two. They haven't as much as quivered in the hundreds of rounds I've put through that thing since I put the scope on it.
19 February 2009, 06:08
odohI didn't mean to imply that the weigand approach wasn't good. Just that w/a UD 30MM with its smaller body than the UD Match Dot would make for a trim, neat less cumbersome rig by using 30MM Ruger/Warne rings mounting it directly to the gun w/o having an additional base much like Whiteworths. AND could retain the iron sight capability which I had to forego w/the weigand arrangement.
At the time, having a 2MOA dot size was important to me.
19 February 2009, 18:35
Kingfisherodoh, don't even sweat it man! Honestly, I didn't bother reading all the posts on the thread so I never saw your comments about the Weigand base. So it's all good.

I wasn't trying to assert anything about the Weigand bases. It was only for descriptive purposes. I got the Weigand for the 500 because there wasn't much else out there at the time, and the price was right.
