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Ruger Bisley 45LC VS 44Magnum
29 March 2011, 04:24
blackbearhunterRuger Bisley 45LC VS 44Magnum
I found a fairly clean used Ruger Bisley in 45LC that has a "very nice custom front sight installed" and has a very lite trigger pull job,,,the gun is clean but there is a bright ring around the cyclinder where it has been fired/turned many times,,,how much is this used gun worth?
I really like the custom front sight... but can about get a nib bisley any caliber for the asking price,,is the extra gunsmith work worth it...the 45LC should be a plenty good hunting round or would you recommend a 44magnum over the 45LC?
29 March 2011, 04:31
bfrshooterEither caliber will do what you want.
The ring around the cylinder is common because of where the latch pops back up. Forget it.
29 March 2011, 04:48
blackbearhunterThanks BFR,I thought maybe it had some kinda bad drag problem thingie going on or something worst...LOL..the extra gunsmithing will not hurt the value any right?
If its not allready gone,iam thinking about makeing a offer..
29 March 2011, 05:54
WhitworthI personally prefer the .45 Colt to the .44 Mag -- it's particularly good if you are a handloader.
"Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP
If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming.
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29 March 2011, 06:48
Dick ThompsonWhen you say, a very light trigger are you sure its a safe trigger. Some of the home gunsmiths do these action jobs themselves & take it too far.
The way to check out a "custom" trigger is to make sure the gun is empty, then cock the gun & push on the hammer to see if the sear releases, you don't have to try & muscle it, just some firm presure, if it holds you are ok, don't be surprised if it drops! Thats unsafe!
A 45 in a Ruger is a terrific caliber, with big, wide bullets you can "cheat" somewhat because they work so well. Its not necessary to run them at maximum velocities, those big slugs will work like magic at reasonable pressures & guess what, the recoil is easy to handle for even a new shooter.
Dick
Dick
29 March 2011, 16:10
WhitworthWell said, Dick!
"Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP
If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming.
Semper Fidelis
"Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time"
29 March 2011, 16:27
loiblbI have this gun in .45. Not seeing your custom
work hard to say it's worth more.
My gun new was $550, chose it over the .44 mag due to easy reloading and less stress on me. Shooting 250 gr. JHP brings this gun into the heavy hitter areana with authority.
29 March 2011, 17:51
Whitworthquote:
Originally posted by loiblb:Shooting 250 gr. JHP brings this gun into the heavy hitter areana with authority.
And even more so when you load it with 360 grainers!

"Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP
If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming.
Semper Fidelis
"Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time"
29 March 2011, 18:39
blackbearhunterIf buying nib,which would you choose and why a 5.5 or 7.5 inch barrel?
29 March 2011, 18:46
WhitworthThat's up to you and your preference. Personally, I like the shorter barrel -- it'll be easier to carry. It's a matter of balance. Many shooters do better with a longer barrel and the longer sight radius but there is really no accuracy advantage, it boils down to what you would prefer.
"Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP
If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming.
Semper Fidelis
"Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time"
29 March 2011, 19:41
bfrshooterFor the primary hunting gun, I prefer 7-1/2". Good balance and enough sight radius.
The shorter the barrel the less movement it takes to open groups and shorten range.
29 March 2011, 21:16
Palladin8I have the stainless 5.5" Bisley in .45LC and love it. It balances nicely and is easier to carry than my 7.5" blackhawk. It is the goto single action pistol for me if I am going to be carrying one while outdoors.
29 March 2011, 23:52
Lar45I started shooting and loading for the 45 Colt in the mid 90s and my 44 Bisley has been collecting dust ever since. I started with a 4 5/8" stainless Blackhawk and now have a 5.5" stainless Bisley. I like the balance and feel of the 5.5" Bisley much better. I found mine on gunbroker. Sometimes you can find a Hunter Bisley in 45, and the convertible 45acp also.
If you like the front sight on it, then go get it before someone else does.
Lar45
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30 March 2011, 03:14
cottonstalkI own a 5.5 bisley in 44mag,and converted a 45 colt blackhawk to bisley with a 4 5/8 bl.Here is my observations,if you hunt mobile alot,the shorter barrels are nice,but I have learned that with the right leather even a 7.5 can be comfortable.If I were stationary hunting for the most part the longer barrels are the ticket.The longer barrels are easier,due to sight radius,to become profficient with,but if you are willing to put in the shooting time you can become just as deadly with the shorties.Either caliber will work well in the lower 48,and for the handloader the 45 colt gets the edge,in my opinion.
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30 March 2011, 09:16
AkshooterI have both. It's simple if you hand load you won't see much if any differance. If you don't and you want big game hunting performance then .44.
If you cast or have access to good hardcast bullets the differance becomes mute.
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30 March 2011, 18:27
juanpozziI grew up reading ROSS SEYFRIED works ,as you know hes a great fan of BISLEYS ,i shoot with them and they have a really good grip angle.
I prefer the 45 colt ,you can reach the 454 casull if you reload,and yes 5 inches are easier to carry ,but when you need to do a prefect shot and in handgun hunting ,believe me any mistake is double paid ,you will be better served by a 7 inch barrell
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30 March 2011, 19:19
temmiGiven you hand load, I would go with the 45 Colt.
If not the .44
If you feel the Custom work adds value then get it.
I would rather get my own work done if needed.
30 March 2011, 20:42
257x50If you don't reload, there are MANY custom shops that lets the 45 "Be All It Can Be".
30 March 2011, 22:05
white eagleextra work from a good smith is worth extra
I own both cals and if I were to take one hunting I would have a hard time choosing
you can't miss with either
30 March 2011, 22:19
Whitworthquote:
Originally posted by 257x50:
If you don't reload, there are MANY custom shops that lets the 45 "Be All It Can Be".
Amen to that!
"Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP
If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming.
Semper Fidelis
"Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time"
31 March 2011, 07:56
jwp475quote:
Originally posted by blackbearhunter:
If buying nib,which would you choose and why a 5.5 or 7.5 inch barrel?
I prefer the 5 1/2" barrel and have always shot them better than the longer barreled revolvers when shooting standing. The 5 1/2" is better balanced and easier to carry in my experience and opinion

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05 April 2011, 00:50
blackbearhunterThanks for all the great info & help,you guys are enabler's 4 sure

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How can i tell if the bisley cyclinder is 45 colt or 45acp?The Frame is just marked 45cal.
Will the cyclinder be marked 45LC somewhere?Also will a 45 acp cyclinder not allow a 45LC to chamber?
I will also be handloading,what are some good bullets and powders?
Thanks

05 April 2011, 02:53
Lar45quote:
Originally posted by blackbearhunter:
Thanks for all the great info & help,you guys are enabler's 4 sure

,

How can i tell if the bisley cyclinder is 45 colt or 45acp?The Frame is just marked 45cal.
Will the cyclinder be marked 45LC somewhere?Also will a 45 acp cyclinder not allow a 45LC to chamber?
I will also be handloading,what are some good bullets and powders?
Thanks
If it has a 45acp cylinder, then it will not chamber a 45 Colt. The 45acp should be a fluted cylinder.
I have a 5.5" SS Bisley in 45 Colt only, and the frame is marked 45 caliber.
Lar45
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06 April 2011, 17:27
blackbearhunterThanks,If i can find a used blackhawk 45acp cyclinder for sale... will it "drop in" fit?or would a bisley 45acp cyclinder "drop in"fit or would these need to be fitted to the gun by a gunsmith?Never heard this question asked before on a combo caliber gun..
Also will a regular blackhawk saa leather Bianci type holster also fit a Bisley or does the bisley require a special holster?
Who makes a decent store bought round i can shoot until i get my reloading stuff..
07 April 2011, 09:25
Lar45A cylinder may or may not fit.
I put a Bisley cylider on my regular Blackhawk. The nose and ratchet ends were both slightly long. I took a diamond stone and adjusted the ratchet end until the front of the cylinder just cleared the barrel, then did the same to the nose until it just fit in the frame.
If you get a 45 Colt and want the extra 45acp cylinder, you might be able to send it back to Ruger and have them fit one to it.
Lar45
White Label Lube Co.
www.lsstuff.comCarnauba Red high speed cast bullet lube.
07 April 2011, 18:02
blackbearhunterThanks Lar45, you have been a great help!

another good custom link i found/they sure like those Ruger Bisley for customizeing

Click on the link below,then click gun pics at the top and then scroll down to see the custom single six...ain't she a beauty!

That's what they call a "BBQ Plinker gun"
http://www.clementscustomguns.com/08 April 2011, 01:15
blackbearhunterfirst 6 shots 255gr.winchester looks like minute of rattlesnake head,good enough for me,range 25yrds.offhand

08 April 2011, 01:38
juanpozziWE HUNTED AND SHOOT A LOT WITH BILLINTHEWILD 5 INCH BOWEN 45COLT AND ITS LIKE A HOLLAND AND HOLLAND OF REVOLVERS ,HAMILTON BOWEN IS JUST A GENIUS ,I LOVE HIS WORK.JUAN
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08 April 2011, 16:15
Whitworthquote:
Originally posted by juanpozzi:
HAMILTON BOWEN IS JUST A GENIUS
That he is, Juan!
"Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP
If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming.
Semper Fidelis
"Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time"
08 April 2011, 17:48
blackbearhunterAnother dreamgun artist link to drool over
http://www.gallagherfirearms.com/default.asp?page=108 April 2011, 18:25
jwp475quote:
Originally posted by Whitworth:
quote:
Originally posted by juanpozzi:
HAMILTON BOWEN IS JUST A GENIUS
That he is, Juan!
I do agree about Bowen, but he is not the only "Genius" when it come to making revolvers out there
Quite a few talented makers theses days
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A 9mm may expand to a larger diameter, but a 45 ain't going to shrink
Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened.
- Winston Churchill
02 May 2011, 10:20
billinthewildquote:
Originally posted by juanpozzi:
WE HUNTED AND SHOOT A LOT WITH BILLINTHEWILD 5 INCH BOWEN 45COLT AND ITS LIKE A HOLLAND AND HOLLAND OF REVOLVERS ,HAMILTON BOWEN IS JUST A GENIUS ,I LOVE HIS WORK.JUAN
That was a fun trip, Juan, and as you know, that revolver and that caliber are my favorites. I may be seeing Hamilton in Texas in a week or so. I sure wish there was a way to get one of his revolvers down to you. John Gallagher may be there as well....I'll make sure you get some photos.
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