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Chop the Bisley Barrel?

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05 August 2007, 01:33
Gatehouse
Chop the Bisley Barrel?
I just recieved a 45 Colt Ruger Bisley.

The barrel is 7.5" long, and I'm thinking it's TOO long.

CHop it ot 5.5" ???

Yes/No?


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05 August 2007, 01:54
Whitworth
Gatehouse, what are you going to use it for?



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05 August 2007, 02:56
MS Hitman
I'm getting one back from John Gallagher that I had that very thing done. My preference is for 5.5 to 6" barrels.



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05 August 2007, 03:01
Gatehouse
Wilderness carry, general fun plinking.... May visit a US friend and shoot a bear or deer wiht it...


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05 August 2007, 05:58
Hammer
Have Ruger Bisleys with factory 4 3/4, 5 1/2, and 7 1/2 inch barrels.

Like them all.

The shorter ones are easier to twirl.
05 August 2007, 07:41
Gatehouse
Twirling, is indeed important. Smiler

Other than a little extra velocity and a little longer barrel to sight down, what is th eadvantage of the longer barrel?

I have a few handguns but I am mostly a rifleman, sorry if this is a dumb question...

PS I came home, made up 6 rounds wiht 300gr hard cast bullets and seated them over Unique...Man, this gun is fun to shoot!

What powder seems to work best wiht 255-3000gr bullets?


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05 August 2007, 07:54
Whitworth
The only dumb question is the one not asked!

Personally I like the 7.5-inch barrel. It's an inherently accurate length. The shorter barrel will be easier to pack, but I wouldn't cut it down......JMHO......



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05 August 2007, 10:16
Gatehouse
Why is the longer barrel more accurate? Just ease of aiming?

I'm not sure I like the sights, they seem a bit too fine/small...


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05 August 2007, 10:44
Boxhead
While I agree that a longer sight radius is "easier" to shoot, a 5 1/2" barrelled gun is not difficult to learn to shoot well. I was out shooting the piece below today, 325 gr LFN's over 22.5 grs of H110, a fairly stout load. I have tweaked the gun some with properly sized throats, tightened cylinder to bore alignment, an Old Army mainspring, Bowen rear and Clements front sights, a locking screw added to the factory base pin and refitted factory gips. While I blew it every cylinder-full, four of five shots would typically cluster inside 1 1/2" at 25 meters. Monday I will move back to 50 meters. If you are going to carry then I would lean toward the 5 1/2" gun.


05 August 2007, 19:19
makeminestainless
Perceived recoil, or at least muzzle lift will be more with a shorter barrel.
06 August 2007, 11:09
Gatehouse
Boxhead, that's a great looking revolver, actually more what I was after in the first place.

Unfortunately, I couldn't track down a stainless medium length Bisley in 45 Colt in Canada, so I went wiht a blued model, and thought I'd shoot it a bit and see if I wanted to chop it down or not....

I like your sights much better, I have to look into the options.


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06 August 2007, 21:20
OLBIKER
Do they still make Rugar Bisley`s in Stainless with differnt barrel lengths????I have never seen one around here.Thanks,OB
06 August 2007, 22:38
MS Hitman
There was a special run of stainless 45 Colt Bisleys with the 5.5" barrels. Have not seen any lately. Bisleys usually just come with a 7.5" barrel.



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06 August 2007, 23:29
Hammer
The standard catalogue Bisley has a 7 1/2 inch barrel.

Think it was for AccuSports... Several were made in stainless steel with 5 1/2 inch barrels in 357, 41, 44, and 45.

Bisley Vaqueros were made in 44 and 45 with both 4 3/4 and 5 1/2 inch barrels and in both stainless and CH/blue.
07 August 2007, 04:58
OLBIKER
Thanks for the info.I will have to keep my eyes open as I would like a 5 1/2 barrel on a stainless with adj. Sights.I have the standard 7 1/2"Bisleys in 45 and 357 but they pack a little heavy.
07 August 2007, 05:04
Whitworth
That's really nice, boxhead!



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07 August 2007, 20:00
Boxhead
Mine is one of the first run of Acusport's, they just did a second run that is a onvertible with the 45 ACP cylinder.
07 August 2007, 20:22
bfrshooter
All of my revolvers are my main hunting guns. I like 10" barrels with 7-1/2" minimum. I use a shoulder holster plus a sling on the butt. For carry or a backup gun I would want a shorter barrel. For general use the 7-1/2" is ideal.
09 August 2007, 00:01
Paul H
To me 5 1/2 to 6" is perfection. You still have enough sight radius that it doesn't degrade your ability to hit, and the guns balance is perfect. The 7 1/2's are just a tad nose heavy, and the 4 5/8's have a neutral balance and the shorter sight radius does make it slightly harder to hit with.


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09 August 2007, 00:39
free_miner
Gatehouse, pick the holster and mode of carry you intend to use, strong-side hip, x-draw, chest holster, etc., Then chop the barrel to fit and install a wiegand base so you can change blades for different loads and conditions.

http://www.brownells.com/aspx/NS/store/ProductDetail.as...E+FRONT+SIGHT+SYSTEM

accepts Weigand and S&W DX style blades.
09 August 2007, 07:14
treg
Thanks for bringing this up gatehouse, I've been contemplating chopping my 7 1/2" Bisley .44 mag barrel too. I've shot a 5 1/2" Blackhawk .44 mag and feel that it is an ideal length for an all around gun.
How much should it cost to have a competent gunsmith perform this operation?
09 August 2007, 07:58
MS Hitman
Where are you located treg? I just got my Bisley back from John Gallagher and am well pleased with the work he did. Gallagher is located in Jasper, AL.



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11 August 2007, 00:12
Gatehouse
Hitman, what did you have done?

Do you have an adress for Gallagher?


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11 August 2007, 07:44
MS Hitman
I had the Bisley rebarreled to a 5.5" with a Wiegand front sight, action job, steel ejector rod housing, slim the grip panels, and refinished.

John's contact information is:

Gallagher Firearms
3923 Bird Farm Road
Jasper, AL 35503
205-384-5229



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11 August 2007, 09:16
Whitworth
The two handguns that I hunt with have 7.5-inch barrels and I find that they balance really well.



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12 August 2007, 03:51
tiggertate
I didn't dislike 7.5 on my .41 Bisley but after I chopped it to 5.5, I liked it better.


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17 August 2007, 07:21
Idaho Sharpshooter
Anybody interested in a Colt Anaconda in 45LC with a 4" barrel? Yes, they did make a few, and I have one.

Rich
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19 August 2007, 16:37
Lloyd Smale
boxhead ive got a 5.5 inch 44 accusport set up identical to yours mines got a set of scrimshawed white micartas or theyd be indentical. Its one of my favortie guns and is the best shooting out of the box ruger ive ever owend. Makemineastainless your thoughts are not entirely correct. Ive got two 4 inch 500 linebaughs and they actually have less felt recoil and muzzle flip then my 5.5 inch guns. I think it has something to do with how long the bullet is traveling in the barrel. You will notice it more in the real heavy kicking guns but for the most part in a 44 mag there is no difference in muzzle flip or recoil. Longer barrels more accurate. Not a chance. Barrel lenght has nothing to do with accuracy. If you can line up and hold the sight picture with a 2 inch barrel it will shoot as well as a 10 inch barrel. I like them short. I shoot short barrels for the most part and tend to shoot them better then long barrels. I like 4 inch guns but a 4 5/8s is about the ideal lenght for a field gun.
20 August 2007, 02:05
skl1
I like my 7.5" barrelled SRH. That said, I think 5.5" is my favorite barrel length for balance, handling, and sight plane. I also think the Accusport Bisley looks great with a 5.5" barrel.
24 August 2007, 07:28
Onty
I always liked Bisley with 7.5" barrel, however, lately I am leaning toward 6.5". Some moons ago I was shooting 4" S&W 66 and 9mm XD semiauto, and couldn't believe how well I was grouping. In that respect, considering tradition that is part of SA revolvers, as well as regulations in many states requiring min. barrel length 6", I am thinking of 6.5" as the most logical choice.
24 August 2007, 07:49
Whitworth
Onty, one of my Model 29 Smiths has a 6.5-inch barrel and I agree with you that it handles really well. But I like the 7.5-incher on my Rugers.......



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13 September 2007, 05:04
Lar45
2400 is a good powder that will cover a wide range of bullets and velocities. If you want to load on the hot end, then 296 will work very well, just don't try to load them down with it.

I have a 4 5/8" 45 Blackhawk and really like it for packing. I think I would prefer a 5.5" barrel though. I have an EJH cross draw holster that works well for getting into and out of the truck.
The short barrel is easy to shoot accurately with. My eyes are starting to get tired and don't focus as well anymore. I think it's easier to keep the sights in focus on a shorter barrel vs a 7.5 or 10.5".

I didn't know Brownells had those sight bases and interchangable sight blades. It looks like a great way to go.


Lar45

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