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14 November 2011, 05:31
GSSP
Shooting a Bisley grip
To make my 4-5/8" 45 Colt more manageable with heavy loads I installed Pachmyers. Worked fine for me.

With my new 5.5" Bisley grip model, is their any discomfort with heavy loads or might I be looking for some kind of grip material in the future?

Alan


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14 November 2011, 08:10
Palladin8
I shoot the 335gr hard cast with a hot load of H110 in my 5.5" Bisley. I find it is more manageable than my 7.5" Blackhawk. I put the Pachmyers on the blackhawk for the recoil but I am going to put the original grips back on because I don't like the way the rubber grip sticks to my hand and doesn't allow the pistol to move during recoil.
What I do is just wear a pair of shooting gloves with gel palms to help reduce the recoil.
14 November 2011, 16:53
tiggertate
quote:
What I do is just wear a pair of shooting gloves with gel palms to help reduce the recoil.


+1 PAST makes a nice one.


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14 November 2011, 21:16
bfrshooter
A Bisley is OK with rubber grips for me. Just need to get my knuckle away from the guard. The rubber eases the pressure in my palm too. I get pain in the tendons in the back of my hand.
I CAN shoot them but hard slippery grips do me wrong.
15 November 2011, 00:58
GSSP
Who makes rubber Bisley grips?

Alan


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16 November 2011, 03:26
TEANCUM
I love my Bisleys.

I've got 2 Ruger Bisleys, one in .44Mag and one in .45 Colt with some hard plastic grips. I took some fake ivory grips and soaked them with a couple of regular tea bags on top of them and came out with some realistic ivory grips.

My experience has been that the Bisley grip form eases the full force of recoil from heavy hot loads. I wouldn't be a buyer of Pachmeyer grips for a Bisley frame from my experience with those grips on some other heavy recoiling shooters. They seemed to increase the traction on my hand and transfer the full force of the recoil back to me. I felt every ft lbs of recoil.
16 November 2011, 04:36
Paul Reed
quote:
Originally posted by GSSP:
Who makes rubber Bisley grips?

Alan


Alan,

No one that I am aware of an an exhaustive Web search and phone calls.


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16 November 2011, 22:32
Boxhead
I will use omly the Bisley gripframe on my boomers like the one below and have the grips perfectly fitted to the gun and to my hand. They generally run a bit narrower than most so I can get a good wrap around the grip.


20 November 2011, 05:06
sputster
That's a great looking revolver, Boxhead. I hope the Bisley grip works well for me as I pick up my Bisley SBH Hunter soon.


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20 November 2011, 18:22
packrattusnongratus
Boxhead that is a nice set of grips. Is that sycamore? it is super light and super strong. Ever try to split a sycamore log? Don't waste your time.
20 November 2011, 18:34
Whitworth
quote:
Originally posted by bfrshooter:
A Bisley is OK with rubber grips for me. Just need to get my knuckle away from the guard. The rubber eases the pressure in my palm too. I get pain in the tendons in the back of my hand.
I CAN shoot them but hard slippery grips do me wrong.


I'm not aware of anyone actually making a rubber grip for the Bisley grip frame.



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20 November 2011, 18:52
Boxhead
quote:
Originally posted by packrattusnongratus:
Boxhead that is a nice set of grips. Is that sycamore? it is super light and super strong. Ever try to split a sycamore log? Don't waste your time.


They are lacewood.
22 November 2011, 19:55
Whitworth
That's one gorgeous piece, Boxhead!



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23 November 2011, 02:00
Alberta Canuck
quote:
Originally posted by Whitworth:
quote:
Originally posted by bfrshooter:
A Bisley is OK with rubber grips for me. Just need to get my knuckle away from the guard. The rubber eases the pressure in my palm too. I get pain in the tendons in the back of my hand.
I CAN shoot them but hard slippery grips do me wrong.


I'm not aware of anyone actually making a rubber grip for the Bisley grip frame.



Nor am I and I have searched diligently trying to find someone who is, anyone at all!

I've also written to Pachmayr's, Hogue, etc. Didn't even get the courtesy of a response from any of them.

My large palms put my knuckles much too close to the back of the trigger guard, and my middle finger's middle knuckle gets absolutely nailed each and every shot.

I've also tried to find anyone who makes pre-inletted wooden stock blanks for Ruger Bisleys. Figure if I could find such a person or company, I might be able to get a set of blanks that would fill the area between the front of the grip and the back of the guard, such as used to be available for the N-frame S&Ws before the rubber stocks eliminated the need for them. Then I could finish the shaping and apply the stock finish myself.

I would gladly pay for a set of custom grips by Herrett, but I won't ship my gun anywhere, which he firmly requires. I would expect a custom stock maker to have a pattern for inletting grips, but apparently not.

I could even provide the very fancy walnut wood for them, but apparentrly it just ain't gonna happen.

If anyone has a solution to this problem short of just buying a non-Bisley grip frame, I'd sure like to hear it. I like the Bisley shape, but I want to keep a useable set of knuckles on my hands too.
23 November 2011, 07:20
MS Hitman
I'm fairly sure it has more to do with fitting the grips to the frame and making sure the outside edges all match up rather than inletting. You may want to try just shipping the grip frame. Otherwise you can always drive and deliver in person. I grew up and got over shipping a long time ago.



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24 November 2011, 00:17
Alberta Canuck
Thank you MS Hitman

I am certain it is for the fitting of the grips perfectly to the frames that Herrett's insists the guns be in his hands before he will make any grips. I am not worried about perfect fitting, and will not ship this handgun to anyone to get it.

I am not after a work of art or perfection. What I want to do is to solve a simple, practical "shooting the pistol" problem. If I can get a set of grips already basically inletted, I can do the final fit, and/or glass bed them to fit the frame well enough for any practical purpose.

. I can also do the final shaping and the final checkering and finishing.

Doesn't seem to me to be too much to ask, and I'd think it should be an attractive niche market for someone with a pantograph and samples of the appropriate revolver frames.

With access to thick stubb ends of nice walnut, myrtle, maple, and other wood blanks, it appears to me to be an area where some good money could be collected without a great deal of effort if one was making enough sets of inletted grip blanks to justify set-up time.

We'll see. I'm making some more contacts even now. I'll see what they think.

If worse evolves to worst, I have some very fancy walnut stub ends of 2-3/4" thick blanks here in my shop and I'll just lay off other projects entirely for a day or two and make my own.

Best wishes,

AC


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24 November 2011, 04:15
MS Hitman
Considering his reputation is on the line each and every time he puts out a set of grips I for one can understand it. If the grips don't come out perfect and you tell or someone sees those are Herrett stocks; then all anyone will "understand" is that Herrett let out a substandard set of grips. Doesn't matter what you say you do or don't want; that is what will be told around the circles in which you run.

So, given your absoluteness; I don't see you ever having any grips but stock on your revolver. Enjoy!



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26 November 2011, 21:49
Randominator
In my opinion, Bisley grips are the most comfortable to shoot when it comes to heavy recoiling calibers. Due to their configuration, they distribute the recoil over a larger area helping the shooter maintain better control. I have a modified Bisley grip on a 510 GNR revolver and it is a pleasure to shoot.



The Bisley style grip even feels better on smaller calibers as well.



JMO.


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28 November 2011, 09:11
Onty
quote:
Originally posted by Alberta Canuck:

If anyone has a solution to this problem short of just buying a non-Bisley grip frame, I'd sure like to hear it. I like the Bisley shape, but I want to keep a useable set of knuckles on my hands too.


What you need is one of these:




I think they were made by Eagle http://www.eaglegrips.com/guns/. This picture is not from their website, it was posted on Ruger forum.
Also, go to http://www.rugerforum.com/phpB...120&highlight=stocks , see woodpile's post.
28 November 2011, 10:02
jwp475
quote:
Originally posted by bfrshooter:
A Bisley is OK with rubber grips for me. Just need to get my knuckle away from the guard. The rubber eases the pressure in my palm too. I get pain in the tendons in the back of my hand.
I CAN shoot them but hard slippery grips do me wrong.



Where i the world did you find those rubber Bisley grips?? Did you dream them up??

IMHO one doesn't need rubber grips on a Bisley that is the beauty of it.


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29 November 2011, 22:04
billinthewild
quote:
Originally posted by Boxhead:
I will use omly the Bisley gripframe on my boomers like the one below and have the grips perfectly fitted to the gun and to my hand. They generally run a bit narrower than most so I can get a good wrap around the grip.



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29 November 2011, 22:05
billinthewild
quote:
Originally posted by Randominator:
In my opinion, Bisley grips are the most comfortable to shoot when it comes to heavy recoiling calibers. Due to their configuration, they distribute the recoil over a larger area helping the shooter maintain better control. I have a modified Bisley grip on a 510 GNR revolver and it is a pleasure to shoot.



The Bisley style grip even feels better on smaller calibers as well.



JMO.


Those grips look like Gary Reeder's?


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29 November 2011, 22:19
Whitworth
Yes they are.



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