13 November 2010, 20:16
bobmn? for flat top on 44 shotshell
flat top: Would you care to share details on 44 metal shot shells? I use the Speer shot capsules. How much improvement do you get with the shot in the metal case? Do you need special dies? Thanks for the info.
19 November 2010, 01:52
larrysBob, I am not flattop, but I hope I can offer some help. I have used the capsules in both my 38 special and 357, but don't any longer. I use a spent shell as a "cookie cutter" and punch wads out of empty styrofoam boxes like McDonalds big breakfast containers. I measure out shot to the same weight as a lead load, insert the same amount of powder as a lead load, put the powder in the case, put in a "wad", put in the pellets, put in another wad and lightly seal the top wad with epoxy or super glue and finish with a light crimp. I don't know whether the crimp is necessary or not, but I always have done it that way.
I have found my home made snake shot rounds to be equal or better than the shot shells.
I also do this with my 41 mag since they don't make capsules for it.
Hope it helps.
19 November 2010, 03:38
Idaho Sharpshooterback in the day:
we used to cut 444 Marlin cases off to cylinder length. I loaded the powder charge and seated a gas check, cup up over it, poured the shot in, and seated a second gas check cup down on that. Put a slight taper crimp on and test. You get more shot in that way, and occasionally one of the cups would make a pretty nifty looking entrance wound. The full cylinder length case holds more shot.
Rich
19 November 2010, 05:03
flat topI have been talking with Bob by email, and sharing ideas. I also use the 444 Marlin case for my Redhawk cylinder lenght shot loads, but, the 444 case needs to be turned to the diameter of a 44 mag case (they are not the same), and a die has to be made up to size the throat portion of the case....otherwise, it will not fit in a 44 mag chamber. This method will hold about 1/2 oz of shot depending on shot size, and the powder charge should drive the shot at 1200 fps for optimum pattern density. Since I have fireformed these shotshells and fired them a number of times, there has never been a need for resizing. These are "killer" shot loads for the Redhawk....about the best that can be had.
19 November 2010, 05:18
257x50Idaho Sharpshooter;
Ya beat me to the gas check tip. In larger calibers, I cut the bottom off of 410 shot cups.
For the 500 Maximum, I may turn some cups.
I believe that God put me on this earth to shoot Canada Geese on the wing ONCE.
Just once............its a nothing personal, its just business.
19 November 2010, 05:21
Farrier MattI played around with this idea, only for a Taurus Judge. I bought some CBC solid brass 410 shells, ran em through a 44 mag seating die far enough for them to chamber, measured out 3/4 oz of #6 shot, 9.5 gr of universal, and I have reloadable shot shells for the judge. They shot pretty well, killed several starlings this past summer. The same load works well in my Savage 22/410 combo as well, not neck sized of course, but I dont think the velocity is as high as a fact round. Im going to try some H110 this winter, see what I can come up with.
19 November 2010, 11:35
Idaho Sharpshooter257x50,
take a look at the Hornady 50 caliber gas checks. You realize, you caused me to have to walk nearly sixty feet just now to mike a couple.
.506" and it's 37-degrees out there.
Rich
you're welcome!
19 November 2010, 13:56
257x50Idaho sharpshooter;
I use a gas check from one caliber down, since it is not a shot shell cylinder. Check a 475. A 348 blown out to fit the full chamber holds several BBs................. :-)