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29 June 2008, 22:29
MS HitmanCare to venture a guess??
bfr,
Did you use a .44 mag expanding die? I've used them with very good success on .454 cases. Get some excellent case neck tension.
If ignorance is bliss; there are some blissful sonofaguns around here. We know who you are, so no reason to point yourselves out.
30 June 2008, 00:25
Redhawk1quote:
Originally posted by bfrshooter:
I would NEVER shoot a deer with it unless it was at least 200 yd's. Bloodshot city. Then the same thing out of the .460?---WOW! Skin it, gut it, cook it and smoke the meat at the same time. That is if you like blood pudding or super tenderized meat.
No matter though because a bad hit still means a lost deer.
A friend sent me a picture of a deer shot at 140 yd's with this bullet. The offside shoulder was gone, nothing but a smoking hole! I have to see if I can find it after my puter crashed.
If you shoot them broad side and go through the rib cage, you don't have to worry about blood shot meat. I know I don't eat the ribs. But like I said, give me a cast bullet any day.
If you're going to make a hole, make it a big one.
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30 June 2008, 05:29
bfrshooterBeen there, done that many times. The wrong bullet will make the deer bloodshot from head to tail. No problem if a butcher is stuck with it but I do my own cutting. I have had some God awful messes from rib shots.
After butchering well over 375 deer you learn the bad with the good real fast.
After seeing what the neighbors wind up with using magnum rifles, they are nothing more then buzzard food.
30 June 2008, 05:40
jwp475Recut the primer pocket to accept a large rifle prime and use a Federal 215. That should lite that powder suffeciently to make that little 200 grainer scat. The violent ignition will not help accuracy, but should cut down on the day light fireball.
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30 June 2008, 05:53
WhitworthBut the fireball is all it is good for!
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30 June 2008, 06:04
Redhawk1quote:
Originally posted by Whitworth:
But the fireball is all it is good for!
If you're going to make a hole, make it a big one.
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30 June 2008, 06:06
Redhawk1quote:
Originally posted by jwp475:
Recut the primer pocket to accept a large rifle prime and use a Federal 215. That should lite that powder suffeciently to make that little 200 grainer scat. The violent ignition will not help accuracy, but should cut down on the day light fireball.
The S&W 460 Mag uses a large rifle primer's and the accuracy is still good, I don't see how the primer affects the accuracy?????
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30 June 2008, 06:22
jwp475The violent ingnition in small cases is well documented as being adverse to top accuracy. For instance the best accuracy for the 22 Hornet normaly will be obtained with small pistol primers being used instead of the normal small rifle primers. Many 1K benchrest competitors will use standard large rifle primers in the 300 WSM and Win mags to produce a less violent ignition to obtain the best accuracy. No secret here..
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30 June 2008, 07:20
bfrshooterYou want heat without pressure from a primer in a small case. Pressure starts the bullet out before a good burn is started. Each and every case will then have a different capacity depending on bullet movement. You can see it with the bad SD's, and ES's.
The loads we used were compressed making a nice plug to move a bullet.
30 June 2008, 07:22
bfrshooterI will NOT use a mag primer im my .44 or .45. I only move to the mag primer when I go to the .475. My 45-70 is loaded with LP mag primers, not rifle primers.