Like most things Colt. It is kind of back.

I think the action is really a worked over King Cobra action.

It does more or less look like a phyton of Old.

6 inch and 4 1/4 inch barrelonly in SS.

I expect Colt’s three dealers will get one each in five years.

Probably spot on. The thing that sealed the deal on the old Python was the Colt Royal Blue finish.

Looks to me like they have improved it.

Making it stronger and even better using stainless.

If you plan on actually using a handgun every day.

By that I mean carrying it in a holster with the thought that one might shoot something with it.

Stainless is far superior.

I prefer blued guns and especially the high polish blue, but I'm glad they're bringing the Python back. And it does look to me like they've improved it.

If it just as smooth??

This is another case of a pistol I can't afford but wish a buddy would buy so I could shoot it at least once.

I'm like that too NC. Sometimes a certain friend of mine will do that. I just have to talk it up over a few months and he eventually buys it. He's single too! Makes a difference. Be Well, Packy.

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Originally posted by eezridr:
If it just as smooth??

According to Hackathorn it is smoother with no stacking

That parts true Packy about the being single. I have a friend that is single worked overseas + when he came back stateside had money to buy up old Colts + Winchesters.

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Originally posted by p dog shooter:
Looks to me like they have improved it.

Making it stronger and even better using stainless.

If you plan on actually using a handgun every day.

By that I mean carrying it in a holster with the thought that one might shoot something with it.

Stainless is far superior.

In 2 different review videos the "new Python" malfunctioned by not rotating the cylinder at times and in one video had failure to fire with light primers strikes

Not a good start

Colts require one to totally release the trigger other wise they may not reset.

Unlike Smiths and Rugers trying to stack them like those will give you trouble.

So I am wondering how much is technique

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Originally posted by p dog shooter:
Colts require one to totally release the trigger other wise they may not reset.

Unlike Smiths and Rugers trying to stack them like those will give you trouble.

So I am wondering how much is technique

Cocking the hammer single action failed to rotate the cylinder as well as double action pull in the Hickock 45 video as well as the other one. Didn't do this everytime

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Originally posted by jwp475:

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Originally posted by p dog shooter:
Colts require one to totally release the trigger other wise they may not reset.

Unlike Smiths and Rugers trying to stack them like those will give you trouble.

So I am wondering how much is technique

Cocking the hammer single action failed to rotate the cylinder as well as double action pull in the Hickock 45 video as well as the other one. Didn't do this everytime

Saw that in the Hickock 45 video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dO-lQEX49U

To bad they have not gotten it right bad press right off the bat is no good.

I bought 2 Pythons in 1977 for $300 each. Think I'll keep them and let the new one go.
Hope the new ones are as accurate as mine. Did a deer at 201 yds. years ago and 5 really heavy bucks from 50-80 yds. with one shot each. Best bullet has been 158 gr. Sierra JHC.

For me, there was never any interest in he Python as I always liked the 357 magnum N Frame of the 1960’s better. The 27 up to the end f pinned and recessed guns are good too.

I grew up shooting a Python. Back in the 1960's a very nice man who lived close to me taught me how to cast and resize bullets when I was about 14. When all the ammo was loaded we would head out to the woods to shoot it all up. To the best of my memory is was a 6 inch blued Python with a scope on it.

Adjusted for inflation I bet a $1500 Python today is less expensive than what they cost in the 1960's. I plan on buying at least 1 after the bugs are worked out and the price settles down.

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Adjusted for inflation I bet a $1500 Python today is less expensive than what they cost in the 1960's. I plan on buying at least 1 after the bugs are worked out and the price settles down

I am thinking the same but 2 of them a 4 and 6

One thing to note about the new Python is the barrel twist rate.
It's a 1:14" twist.
Should be good with the heavy bullets.


I've handled one of these new ones just hours after handling a properly tuned original model Python.
Although the mechanism is completely different, it has a good *somewhat linear* trigger pull in double action.
They can be improved too.

Until they're Royal Blue with wood grips, no interest here.

I hope to buy one once they've fixed the cylinder rotation issue, even though I generally prefer blued guns.

I saw a SHOT show video where one of the product guys at Colt indicated they've taken in the malfunctioning gun and can't re-create the issue. He vaguely blames cheap ammo. Since I watched the issue in two videos and don't think it could have been an ammo issue, this Colt denial has me more concerned than the issue itself originally did. The hand has to be backing up under the pressure of cylinder lock up (which can be ammo related) or something, right? The rest of the lockwork should be arrested if the cylinder locks up.

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He vaguely blames cheap ammo.

I was at SHOT 3 years ago and had the than new ruger 10mm red hawk mis fire many times.

Ruger blamed the new in the box Hornaday ammo BS.

Hickcock 45 was using new the box federal ammo.

P Dog Shooter, yes I agree on hickok45 using good, new ammo. And he obviously wants the gun to be successful. No axe to grind there.

Here's the American Rifleman video with the SVP from Colt; I fixated on him blaming the ammo, but he also says Colt will make it right and that they've done a lot of testing and had good results.

I don't like all the online end-of-the-world worry-mongering, but when you look at history of bad launches like the Remington 105 CTi it's hard not to worry the design isn't unfixable:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTtDUkBw1Q4

Common flu kills 30k Americans and hospitalizes 200k a year.

Let’s hope this sucker is controlled fast.

Mike

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Originally posted by Beretta682E:
Common flu kills 30k Americans and hospitalizes 200k a year.

Let’s hope this sucker is controlled fast.

Mike

And this has what to do with the Colt Python? LOL

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Originally posted by skl1:
P Dog Shooter, yes I agree on hickok45 using good, new ammo. And he obviously wants the gun to be successful. No axe to grind there.

Here's the American Rifleman video with the SVP from Colt; I fixated on him blaming the ammo, but he also says Colt will make it right and that they've done a lot of testing and had good results.

I don't like all the online end-of-the-world worry-mongering, but when you look at history of bad launches like the Remington 105 CTi it's hard not to worry the design isn't unfixable:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTtDUkBw1Q4

The new edition of American Rifleman reviewing the Reintroduced King Cobra also had a sample fail to rotate. The Reintroduced King Cobra and Reintroduced Phyton have the same action.

ANY revolver with rotation issues makes a good trotline weight.

My first centerfire handgun as a 6” bright stainless Python in the late 80s. That got stolen. About 5-6 years ago I took in a 6” blued from a client. It was in very rough shape, but still smooth action. After shooting it,

I remembered why I dislike the .357. It’s just such a violent cartridge. I enjoy shooting my .44s much more. I ended up trading for a Steyr .270.

I’ll look at the new rendition, but probably won’t be a buy.

There are now 2 different guys on YouTube with the same Python problems: Cylinder not rotating 100% of the time and light primer strikes.
Granted the second "kid" with this same problem as Hickok is obviously not a true gun-guy (makes up his own words for different pistol/revolver parts), but still, these are pretty basic mechanical issues for a DA revolver to have.
I'm amazed it could make it through R&D with such an obvious issue.
There is something else going on here, and it ain't the ammo if the cylinder isn't turning "some of the time".

Two new pieces of info:

Found a thread on a King Cobra with the same issue. Local gunsmith replaced the hand spring and it apparently fixed the problem.

Also, saw a King Cobra target in my LGS. Looks great and feels great in the hand...

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Originally posted by PJS50:
There are now 2 different guys on YouTube with the same Python problems: Cylinder not rotating 100% of the time and light primer strikes.
Granted the second "kid" with this same problem as Hickok is obviously not a true gun-guy (makes up his own words for different pistol/revolver parts), but still, these are pretty basic mechanical issues for a DA revolver to have.
I'm amazed it could make it through R&D with such an obvious issue.
There is something else going on here, and it ain't the ammo if the cylinder isn't turning "some of the time".

Now a 3rd, with the crown looking like it was finished the a hoof file. These are obviously not the same quality as the originals.

Was glad to see this:

https://www.americanrifleman.o...issues-in-new-video/

Colt's traced/reproduced/admitted the 3 problems (light primer strikes, no cylinder rotation, and bad barrel crowns) and is addressing them, it looks like.

A revolver being ammo sensitive (light primer strikes being due to imported ammo according to video) now I have heard everything.

LHeym500,

That makes perfect sense to me.

I've over-lightened the hammer spring doing trigger jobs and had the gun be unable to ignite CCI primers but be 100% on Federals and Winchesters. And I have a Taurus 22 WMR that will ignite any ammo single action but only certain brands double action.

I think they were trying to make a factory "trigger job" with a nice light mainspring, but it won't set off the hard primers.

You are correct. I was not questioning that such a condition was possible from a mechanic or engineering stand point.

Simply find that Colt managed to build an ammo sensitive revolver so flabbergasting.

You fellows need to read this and there's also a picture of the internals on the new Python.

https://singleactions.proboard...w-photos-colt-python

Vzerone,

Great thread; thanks for posting it!

Been watching these sell on Gunbrokers. Prices are staying high. Was hoping to see selling prices of $1500 but don’t think that is going to happen anytime soon.