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john Lienbaugh is a god!!!!
15 May 2002, 13:37
Lloyd Smalejohn Lienbaugh is a god!!!!
This new .475 is the tightest revolver I have ever seen even more so then my .500 and the first 3 5 shot 25 yard groups I shot went under an inch and thats spectacular for me!! the load was a 400 grain lee lfn and 26 grains of 110 with a cci mag primer all I can say is wow. The only problem is that now I have to figure a way to save the money for another. Believe what you here there that good!!
15 May 2002, 13:57
MingbogoDon't mispell the name of the master or your next gun will not be a good one. All kidding aside here is a question for you.
Did John do a line bored chambering on your 475? With the accuracy that you are getting, there is probably no need for this time consuming task. Have fun. Ming
15 May 2002, 22:39
Lloyd Smaleyes John linebores every gun he makes. at least that is what I have been told. I have a .500 that he made early in his career its serial number 100 and I dont know for sure if it is linebored. It shoots great too but not as well as this .475. This thing shoots every load I tried under 2inch most around 11/4 and allmost all of them within a couple inches of each other. Its got to be the most inherently accurate pistol I have ever seen!
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Originally posted by ming:
Don't mispell the name of the master or your next gun will not be a good one. All kidding aside here is a question for you. Did John do a line bored chambering on your 475? With the accuracy that you are getting, there is probably no need for this time consuming task. Have fun. Ming
He is great isn't he. I have had one of his early .45's on a Seville frame for years, it will be the last handgun I part with.
The Lee bullet is a good one. Out of my 480, with a tuned load it'll put 5 into 1" at 50 yds with the assistance of a scope.
I've shot a few of John's guns, he definately does nice work.
Lloyd Smale,
Please give up to wrtie things like this. That's remind me I need to wait 1 full year to got me .500 Long mad by John too 
I can't wait!!!!! 
You must have an heavy .45 Colt mad by John and fter this you'll have the all John's products collection
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16 May 2002, 11:26
yukon deltaHey Lloyd. My 500 built by John was #101...small world.
16 May 2002, 11:56
Lloyd SmaleIt sure is!! I hope you enjoy yours as much as i do mine!
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Originally posted by yukon delta:
Hey Lloyd. My 500 built by John was #101...small world.
16 May 2002, 11:57
Lloyd SmalePs If you ever decide to sell it please consider contacting me.
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Originally posted by yukon delta:
Hey Lloyd. My 500 built by John was #101...small world.
16 May 2002, 11:58
Lloyd SmaleIt sure is it shoots not only great in my gun but my buddy uses it in his 480 and .475 and says its his most accurate bullet.
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Originally posted by Paul H:
The Lee bullet is a good one. Out of my 480, with a tuned load it'll put 5 into 1" at 50 yds with the assistance of a scope.I've shot a few of John's guns, he definately does nice work.
08 June 2002, 05:56
MingbogoI just wanted to clarify that John Linebaugh does not do line-bored chambering. I just talked to the master today myself. A gun can be tight and accurate without line-bored chambering and not every gunsmith would put up the time to do line-bore chambering like Freedom Arms. It is no big deal one way or another but I thought that the public should not be misinformed. Cheers! Ming
08 June 2002, 15:15
Lloyd SmaleI did some checking myself and you are right he doesnt think its neccisary.
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Originally posted by ming:
I just wanted to clarify that John Linebaugh does not do line-bored chambering. I just talked to the master today myself. A gun can be tight and accurate without line-bored chambering and not every gunsmith would put up the time to do line-bore chambering like Freedom Arms. It is no big deal one way or another but I thought that the public should not be misinformed. Cheers! Ming
08 June 2002, 23:54
BER007I just want to understand why line-bored chambering is useful for FA and not for John Linebaugh and some others famous names.
From my point of view FA is the reference in all cases.
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09 June 2002, 01:56
MingbogoBER007,
Like I mentioned before, line-bored chambering is a very time consuming process and it requires special tooling to do it. Since a gun does not have to be line-bored to be accurate, some gunsmiths would not bother to invest the time and tooling into this specialized process. With that said, gunsmiths like Bowen or David Clements does line-bored chambering religiously with every conversion. I think that the way it should be. Cheers! Ming
09 June 2002, 11:41
Lloyd Smaleline boring can also be a fix for someone who doesnt want to take the time to properly tighten and set up the indexing of a gun. I would put my non linebored .475 up against any revoler made for consistancy of accuracy. I havent found any load yet that doesnt shot into 1 1/2 or less and thats with six different bullets and many powder combos and I dont claim to be a handgun shooting expert you should see some of the groups my buddy who can shoot has shot with that gun.
10 June 2002, 05:47
BER007ming,Lloyd:
Many thnaks for your explanations about line-bored chambering. Now it is clear
10 June 2002, 09:14
MingbogoBER007,
I suggest you to read Bowen's new book as it has a lot of technical info about big bore conversions. Cheers! Ming
10 June 2002, 09:22
BER007ming,
I suggest you to read Bowen's new book as it has a lot of technical info about big bore conversions. Cheers! Ming[/QUOTE]
I'll purchase it. (already planned). many thanks.
12 June 2002, 17:22
dan belisleAnd what book would this be, pray tell? - Dan
15 June 2002, 22:01
Brent MoffittYes what book, and where? I was under the impression that John's guns were all linebored as well.
Bowen isn't charging anymore for a conversion that is linebored from what I remember. I remember both came highly recommended. I'm let down a little.
I was told the precise alinement line boring through the frame was to keep the gun from hammering itself loose when the slug moves from cyl to bbl and accuracy was just an obvious byproduct.
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line boring can also be a fix for someone who doesnt want to take the time to properly tighten and set up the indexing of a gun.
This may be true, I don't know how it's done to even comment on this. I do know that FA's are VERY tight in this area.
16 June 2002, 01:59
MingbogoFirst of all, Bowen Classic Arms just published a book called The Custom Revolver which has tons of technical info about customizing a revolver whether it is a small bore or big bore. Go to their web site to order yourself a copy. I am just about finish reading my copy.
Secondly, don't waste the energy here talking about linebored chambering with a whole bunch of us who don't know what we are talking about. It is a joke to here some of the comments here about this subject. I suggest calling John Linebaugh or Hamilton Bowen or Jim Stroh to consult their expertise.
Cheers! Ming
16 June 2002, 11:45
Lloyd Smaleexcellent suggestion as I just shoot them and certainly dont know crap about building them!
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Originally posted by ming:
First of all, Bowen Classic Arms just published a book called The Custom Revolver which has tons of technical info about customizing a revolver whether it is a small bore or big bore. Go to their web site to order yourself a copy. I am just about finish reading my copy.
Secondly, don't waste the energy here talking about linebored chambering with a whole bunch of us who don't know what we are talking about. It is a joke to here some of the comments here about this subject. I suggest calling John Linebaugh or Hamilton Bowen or Jim Stroh to consult their expertise.
Cheers! Ming