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Re: Exploding projectiles
16 December 2004, 10:13
JiriRe: Exploding projectiles
I have used nitroglycerine filled pellets in airgun. What a destructive efect after impact ! Simply put a little of wadding (or nitrocelulose, it is better) in the pellet and drop a nitroglycerine from syringe on it, enough to soak into wadding. Then put pellet into chamber, but backward. I have tested it only with low power .177 airgun, with modern high power airgun there is danger of explosion in barrel.
When fired to beer glass, half of that will disapear, also it is capable to make 1" hole in tin can.
Jiri
16 December 2004, 15:55
Grizzly AdamsHello;
Never had the guts to try it, but years ago I read an article On explosive projectiles used in early dangerous game rifles. The explosive component was apparently Antimony Sulphide, the same thing that makes a match strike.
Grizz
21 December 2004, 04:02
HenryC470Quote:
Small rifle primers fit in 17 caliber airguns. Enough said.
Now I'm doomed.
H. C.
13 January 2005, 07:40
338vtI'm with Henry
19 January 2005, 15:45
D HumbargerYou can also cut the white tips off matches. CAREFULLY grind the stuff up & pack it into the cavity of a pellet & shoot it backwards.
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23 January 2005, 00:50
muzzaThere is always the muzzle-loader trick of boring the nose of the lead projectile and placing a .22 short case minus bullet into the hole then shooting . Same principle as the Swiss Vetterli exploders.
Sounds like a fun way to go out with a bang.....
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23 January 2005, 05:03
derfGeez Muzza, what in the heck did you have to post that idea for!
After flinging arrows out of my Hawken now I am just gonna have to try the shorts as all I have for a 22 is a 10/22 and a boatload of 22shorts that I inherited. This could get interesting,.495RB and a short. Look out Tree Rats!
derf
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23 January 2005, 08:03
craigsterDrill a 1/4" hole in your favorite big bore cast bullet, halfway deep or so. Place blackpowder in the hole, cap it with an empty unfired 22 short case. Have fun.
23 January 2005, 08:45
MurfAs above but use powder from a blank cartridge under the .22 short. bang....BANG
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01 February 2005, 01:12
tiggertateWhy not just put in purple nail gun blanks? Too much?
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01 February 2005, 07:23
craigsterNever thought about the nail gun loads. Any of the power levels should work.
02 February 2005, 07:02
muzzaOoops , I see havoc and mayhem stirring from that simple suggestion of mine
Anyone bold enough to try this might like to take their camera along and record the event for posterity...?( and us of course )
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02 February 2005, 09:25
craigsterYeah, a wad of C4 instead of the black powder would be way cool.
03 February 2005, 07:38
Plumb CenterIf you haven't tried tannerite, do it is awesome
05 February 2005, 13:07
Hog KillerCarefull with the ramrod on those 22 rims
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05 February 2005, 21:58
derfRight you are HG. Maybe a saboted round would be safer! derf
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06 February 2005, 00:52
tiggertateWell, I wasn't thinking about exploding muzzle loader rounds. I assumed that most folks would know better than to tamp a live primer but I should know better.
Back on a hunting camp (too many years ago to admit), I used to tell greenhorns that I was making "exploding" bullets for my Thompson Hawken. What I really did was cut a hole in a 1lb black powder can, tape a layer of percussion caps inside and refill it with BP. Then I'd find a good sized woodpecker hole to place it in, wait for a mark and then stroll out into the area with my "exploding bullets" and casually place a round into that hole. Usually blew the stump in half and had the mark laying prone!
I'm sure most of them knew they had been had but to my knowledge none know how.
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17 February 2005, 08:48
KyleMy Uncle has loaded quite a few exploding bullets for me and my father for the .44 Magnum and .45-70.Where he would place a magnum rifle primer in the hollow point and coat it with candle wax to keep oil from your hands off of it and we would shoot it at metal and wood and it would make a pretty cool bang and I believe there actaully was a company they made these in 70's and 80's?
18 February 2005, 07:39
MurfHog killer and Derf. My experience was also with cast bullets in a cartridge rifle. i didn't think of someone assuming all cast bullets or all black powder was used ina MZ. Good point so someone DOES NOT try this in granddad's smoke pole.
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18 March 2006, 11:02
The MetalsmithNow this is a funny thread.
Back in my younger years, around 17, I had the great fortune of my father being a reloader. One thing I found out worked wonderfully was those 300-grain Barnes X-bullets for the 45-70. Those had the hugest hollow point I've ever seen, so naturally I got the wild hair up my bum to go ahead and stuff one full of flare powder, cap it off with a 209 shotshell primer and head to the range. You would not believe what that combination did to a steel popper target! Lots of fire though, be careful in grassy areas.
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19 March 2006, 00:36
calgarychef1I've heard about.....an arrow filled with BP with a nipple screwed in the insert and a percussion cap on the nipple.
Hmmmm
the chef
19 March 2006, 06:04
308SakoHenry, you just told the truth... don't worry.
Ah the memories.
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19 March 2006, 06:20
Grizzly AdamsMarch, I don't believe April. Winter is a long time going, eh?
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19 March 2006, 19:20
tiggertatequote:
Originally posted by Kyle:
I believe there actaully was a company they made these in 70's and 80's?
Yeah, until Ronald Reagan and Jim Brady got shot with them. The one that hit Brady in the forehead didn't go off. Largely the reason he's still alive. I don't think the one that got Reagan in the lung went off either. IIRC they were 22 Mag shot from a short barrel pistol.
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19 March 2006, 19:23
tiggertatequote:
Originally posted by calgarychef1:
I've heard about.....an arrow filled with BP with a nipple screwed in the insert and a percussion cap on the nipple.
Hmmmm
the chef
I did that when I was young and dumb. Now I'm just older.
I rolled tubes from notebook paper to hold plenty of powder and taped a big finishing nail to the arrow (the old cheapy wood arrows) for the cap. Wrap the whole mess up with a layer of masking tape and shoot. One day, ran out of masking tape and substituted some duct tape. Too much duct tape, in fact. Only the nose of the tube blew out and the arrow came back at me faster than I shot it at the barn. Luckily, the barn was a lousy shot.
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20 March 2006, 06:14
calgarychef1Hee hee that's funny. I had actually thought about lobbing them into a field never thought of firing them directly at something. Now I know to lob them....if I ever get abound to trying it out. It must make a pretty big bang--an arrow would hold a lot of BP
thanks for the chuckle
the chef
21 March 2006, 04:49
tiggertateLob 'em wherever you want, just stay away from duct tape, LOL. Propane tanks are especially challenging...
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21 March 2006, 08:16
georgeldWIth less sense than most of you guys have shown. I shot a 100# propane cylinder expecting to make a big boom.
It just hissed gas for a long time. Was plumb spooky driving past it on the way out in my old chevy with sparking plug wires.
Now why didn't it blow up either time???
Other guys and I shot enough '06 armor piecing slugs at the web on a mailine rail where the trains went by real slow.
One day we went out to do some more vandelism and there was an engine derailed where the web had crushed down from so many holes. We never went back for years, and then didn't do any harm.
Back in the 50's people burned trash in ashpits and trash barrels. We dropped quite a bunch of 50 cal's in them and ran.
It's a wonder someone didn't get hurt real bad. AND not wonder there's so many laws against such nonsense nowdays.
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26 March 2006, 15:31
trekker111Take an aluminum arrow, the bigger the better, and remove the insert from the tip (heat with cig lighter) fill the shaft with black powder and stick a 209 shotshell primer in the end. Then superglue a bb in the center of the primer and fire.
Just make sure it gets several yards away to reduce the chance of being hit with aluminum splinters.
30 March 2006, 20:52
xs headspaceBack about 50 years ago, when I had a 45-70 Trapdoor, I drilled a hole in the end of some 500 gr lead Gatling gun surplus ammo, dated, I think 92. Put 22 lr, with powder, no bullet, into the hole. Worked great, except for a hangfire that went off and hit the ground about 10 ft in front of me. Was most useful in pruning tree branches too high to reach, on grandpa's farm. Now, I stick to firing hollow practice golf balls into the air on July 4 from a replica Coehorn mortar I built. About 1" of fuse, and 3-4 dram scoop of 4F in the ball gets you an air burst about 120 yds up.
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