It is not shooting related but funny and very efective.

Did anybody of you have any problems with moles (or voles, the same solution) ?

If yes, this is my and not only my recipe: ACETYLENE

There are two ways, first you have an access to calcium acetylide, or you have access to bottle of acetylene for welding.

Find two the most far molehills. On one make fire, with wood or so. On the second, put adequate amount of calcium acetylide into it and put some water on it and run away. When acetylene gas reach second hill with fire, it will explode inside tunnels, killing all moles and somewhere throwing earth from places where are tunels. If you have acetylene bottle with pressure valve and check valves!, simply put torch into hill, seal it and let gas flow into tunnels. The same result. A little earthquake, flying earth etc. . .

Jiri

Mole shooting is more fun but I did not think of this way.

Acetylene is an extremely flammable gas and playing around with it has caused more than a few tears in the past, I'm sure. Best not to fool with it unless you know what you're doing and respect it for what it can do to you. Call me an old fuddy-duddy, but I like my body parts right where God put them. Is that so wrong??

A fellow that works with me did something along the lines of jiri's stunt.
He lives out in the country and him and his Dad poured gasoline down a rathole out in the barnyard.
They lit it up and sure enough,out runs a large rat engulfed in flames.
It ran about 50 feet and into the barn.
The barn burnt down.
Whoops.

Don't worry, I know what I am doing ( I hope ;-) ).

I passed chemical labs (inorganic, analytic, organic syntheses, toxicology etc.) at chemical faculty, biology, ecology etc. so I know how to play with chemicals, explosives and poisons ;-). I also play with such things since I was 7 year old or so. All body parts still on right places. Yes, I agree, I didn't finished chemical faculty, because there was some "little problem" with explosives, but I was 19 or so ;-) (police special unit with assault rifles, hoods and body armor at student hostel ;-) ) Now I study at electrotechnical faculty, I am Bc. and continue to be Ing.

If you use acetylene bottle (for welding), check valve is a MUST !!!, because quenching of burning acetylene bottle is not easy at all.

Jiri

Isnt that Calcium Carbide and water?

Knowing just enough to be dangerous the fuel/Air mix would be out of ratio enough it may have a hard time getting lit. Ya got to let it breath to burn.
Less fun but car exhaust piped down the hole for 10 minutes will kill the and not wreck someones lawn

On a warm summer day we used to pour about a cup of gasoline into gopher tunnel and then seal hole. After about a hour we poked a small hole into gopher tunnel with broomstick and using a lit oily rag on end of long pole we
touched the open gopher hole and had the same
explosive result. Less elegant than acetylene but very effective. A vaporized cup of gasoline has a lot of energy!

Old Elk Hunter,

My father showed me this same technique when I was a little kid. We did this on our farm to smoke out coyotes pups out of thier dens.
It was quite impressive. We stuck a diesel soaked rag in the hole to light the fumes. There was a BIG WHUMP! and it looked like the whole hillside moved.



Daryl

Having worked for Chveron for 30 years in the Gulf of Mexico I have seen some bad things happen with Acexylene. One of the worse was when a bottle caught fire at the top and someone tried to put it out with a fire hose. The bottle exploded when the water hit it and burnt several people. One stayed in the hospital over a year with a total body suit on. Nothing to play with for sure.

We used to fire bottlerockets down gopher holes. Sometimes it would take the right path and after a few moments, no more whoosh sound, only a gentle wump, followed by the giggles!!!

For a good BANG you need to use an Oxy-Acetylene mix, in air Acetylene only burns.

Some of my rancher friends had a fox den on a hill a couple of years ago. They took a 20lb. ptopane tank and stuffed the hose down the hole, opened the valve and let it run for 10min. Then from a distance tossed a lit rag into the hole. The whole top of the hill seemed to move!!The foxes never were seen again!

There actually is a place that makes a device that uses acteylene or propane to explode the moles out. It's similar to a hand held torch that is commonly hooked to a small propane tank and used to burn weeds or whatever. You siimply put it in the hole and let the gas run for a while then pull a ignition switch like a grill that lights the gas and you can see the dirt fly where the tunnels were.

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Originally posted by SuperMagnum:
There actually is a place that makes a device that uses acteylene or propane to explode the moles out. It's similar to a hand held torch that is commonly hooked to a small propane tank and used to burn weeds or whatever. You siimply put it in the hole and let the gas run for a while then pull a ignition switch like a grill that lights the gas and you can see the dirt fly where the tunnels were.

Give us a link . . . I don't know I understand it good but you are staying next hole when you ignite it ???

Jiri

I can't find a link for it, but I saw it at a farm show last year and saw a video of it at work. It's basically a 4 or 5' pipe hooked to a propane grill tank, on the bottom of the pipe there is an approx 12" square plate about 12 inches or so above the bottom. You simply put the pipe down the hole till the plate hits the ground and open the valve, after a while u shut off the valve and pull the trigger. And yes, you stand right there, that's why they also had protective head shields and leather on cuz the dirt will fly.

I like putting a bottle of Tannerite on a well-used gopher mound, preferably one with a dead gopher already sprawled across it.

When the family comes out to consume the newly deceased, zing a round through the Tannerite to scatter gophers for 50 yards in every direction.

The first time I did this, my 7 year old son laughed until he couldn't breathe! Me too!

Redial
Gopher Jihad

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When the family comes out to consume the newly deceased, zing a round through the Tannerite to scatter gophers for 50 yards in every direction.

Gophers are carnivorous?

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Gophers are carnivorous?

They sure are.I didn't believe it til I saw it myself.

You betcha! Best gopher-bait is dead, eviscerated gopher.

i found a great (and much safer) way to deal with rats using a lawn mower and a length of motor air duct hose. place one end of hose in rat hole, other end over lawn mower exhaust. start motor. go and have a cup of tea(or whatever you fancy)
come back, stop mower, remove pipe. job done!

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Originally posted by redial:
You betcha! Best gopher-bait is dead, eviscerated gopher.

When shooting squirrels in California they were refered to as "medics"!!!

"Medics" - good one!

I've heard it said that once you kill a gopher, six more come to the funeral!

Yesterday, the rancher's puppy followed me around for an hour or two "helping" and discovered that once you've pulled most of the innards out of a splatted gopher, they make marvelous chew toys. All fine and good for an up and coming ranch dog BUT you can't let him inside for a few hours because, sure as tomorrow, he'll heave up gopher guts on the living room rug. Ask me how I found this out ...

Redial

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Originally posted by worriedman:
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What an odd product... Make sure that you download the videos of the explosions!

John

The way to get a proper oxygen/gas mixture is to light your torch and adjust it to a neutral flame ie: not carburizing and not oxidizing. Then tap the end of the torch on a work bench etc to put out the flame now you have the proper air/gas mixture to cause an explosion....so I suppose from here you could put a little down the hole and touch it off with an igniter. It doesn't take very much gas at the proper mixture, in welding class we used to fill a styrofoam coffee cup with said mixture and touch it off.....the report was almost deafening.

be careful

the chef

Hello Chef;
They taught you this in cooking school?
gri zz

As a youth,I shot calcium carbide,the report was almost as loud as a shotgun.
I used the one pound can the carbide came in,it had a tight fitting lid similiar to a paint can.A nail hole was punched in the middle of the can bottom,2 pieces of carbide were placed in the can,I would then spit on the carbide and clamp the lid tightly in place.Holding my thumb over the hole in the bottom of the can ,I would allow the gas to generate until the can became very warm.Touching a lit match to the nail hole would result in a very loud explosion,the can kicked like a .45 ACP and the lid would fly 20-30 feet.

Firecrackers were difficult to obtain where we lived so we "shot carbide" on the 4th of July.

I have never known of anyone being injured while "shooting carbide"but I never showed the trick to my son.

WC.

Try this!
set your acetylene torch to a good blue flame, put flame out (I snuff it on the bottom of my boot). Then fill a 2 liter plastic pop (soda) bottle with the gas oxygen mix. set the bottle on your target range and shoot it with your rifle or hand gun, and BOOM. you have exploding targets. If you have the right oxy acet mix a 22 rf will explode it.
ps I give the mix about a 20 count to fill the 2 liter. If you like this next try a gallon plastic jug.
Mike

One day going into the welding shop for work. A couple guys had small balloons filled with acetylene and a lit torch on the over head crane.

When an unsupecting person came in the door they'd let the crane hook & torch down to lite the balloon off. Talk about one hell of an explosion. They thought it was funny of course.

As I posted another place. One of my mentally defective friends came over to my shop with a big rubber balloon one day and asked me to fill it up with acetylene and I did. He tied a blasting cap in the neck and sealed it. then tied on another large balloon, these were about 3' dia. the second one was filled with helieum both tied together and had a 3-4' blasting fuse.

He claimed it was at least 300' in the air over town when it went off. Of course it brought all the red and white lites around. They investigated for days and never did figure out what the explosion was. Most of the people on this side of town were rolled out of their beds from it, including us. Soon as I heard it go off I knew damned well who and what. I never gassed things up for him again.

When they go off, the flame from it is a bright orange/red color and very loud.

George

Back in my own dark ages I worked in a machine shop on swing shift, and my foreman liked to fill a garbage bag with 50/50 oxygen/acetylene and tie it to one filled with helium. He'd tie a foot of dynamite fuse in the Oxy/Ac bag, light it, and let it drift away. This was after dark so when it went off it was very impressive, especially since we were near the SLC airport.

One of the long time residents (now a member of the volunteer ambulance crew) of this tourist trap called Woodstock I live near told me this one. When a teenager, the bad boy bunch he was in took a condom, filled it with a mix of acetylene and O2, tied it to a wood plank with a cigarette for a fuse, and started it floating down the creek that eventually ran under the main street. The thing went off right next to an outdoor cafe, and drinks went flying thru the air. PS-If it's Tourist Season, why can't we shoot them??

i was the victim of a good joke. i was welding, and a buddy filled a zippered sandwich bag with o2 and act. he dropped the bag at my feet and walked away. well, several seconds later-boom.
first i said it,then i did it. SHIT!!!!! you bastard.

I have never done the oxy-act stuff but I did show couple of guys in college what you can do with non-dairy coffee creamer. I demonstrated with about a tablespoon and a lighter...simply hold the lit lighter and sprinkle some creamer into the flame and you get a nice yellow flame, very little noise. These guys took a huge food industry sized container and slowly dumped most of it out a third story window on a still evening outside the dorm onto 6 lit candles.The heat from the burning coffee creamer pushes the flame higher.....with a tablespoon maybe a foot higher then you started dumping it from...the fireball from this little prank ended up being visible halfway across campus and rising up over the roof of the 6 story dorm.... The fire department had no idea what caused the fireball that was reported but there was a strange smell in the air.

-phil

I like AMFLO for mole control. Be careful

Prarie Dogs eat the dead also.

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Originally posted by The Specialist:
For a good BANG you need to use an Oxy-Acetylene mix, in air Acetylene only burns.

That is awsome. I started doing it when I was 12.