01 August 2008, 04:24
btefftI just got Lyman's 49th reloading manual . . .
I just got Lyman's 49th reloading manual, don't throw away Lyman 48.
I was comparing the loading tables in Lymn's 48th Ed'n with its new 49th ed'n.
I only looked at the rounds I reload.
I'm glad I didn't trash (or give to a friend) my Lyman 48.
Here's why,
1. In the 48th manual there are 8 recipes of bullets for reloading .380 ACP - in the 49th, there are 7.
2. In the 48th manual there are 12 recipes of bullets for reloading 9 mm - in the 49th, there are only 9.
So, save #48.
Hack
Same thing happened in the new Barnes manual. Number of powders listed for each cartridge dropped by 40%+
LWD
03 August 2008, 07:55
2ndtimerAt least the Nosler No. 6 added a few new powders to many of the calibers. Sorry to hear about the Lyman No. 49. Hopefully, they added some new powders for rifle cartridges. It is annoying when some of the publishers slap a new cover on their old manual and give it a new number. (Speer)
06 August 2008, 00:36
Heatquote:
Originally posted by LWD:
Same thing happened in the new Barnes manual. Number of powders listed for each cartridge dropped by 40%+
LWD
Not only that but I also noticed (because I load two Weatherby cartridges) that they were using custom barrels as opposed to Weatherby rifles. The best example is the 338-378 Wby. They used a custom 25 inch barrel of which I assume was mounted to a universal receiver. The nr. 3 manual they used a Mk V rifle with 26 inch barrel. The load data are completely different between the two manuals for this cartridge.
Ken....
06 August 2008, 04:19
seafire2Well try the old Lyman 47 for instance...
It s like Hodgdon is working with them to phase out old standbys like IMR 4895, 4064, 3031, 4198, RL 7 from Alliant...
They are trying to jack up the amount of powder used in a case.. the lawyers and the powder compnay accountants want us all to use powder we can, at the higher prices...
another typical Wall Street supported snow job..
06 August 2008, 05:06
Ol` Joequote:
It s like Hodgdon is working with them to phase out old standbys like IMR 4895, 4064, 3031, 4198, RL 7 from Alliant...
They are trying to jack up the amount of powder used in a case.. the lawyers and the powder compnay accountants want us all to use powder we can, at the higher prices...

06 August 2008, 06:32
TX Nimrodquote:
It is annoying when some of the publishers slap a new cover on their old manual and give it a new number.(Speer)
Actually, Speer re-shot quite a number of cartridges with new powders and/or developed new data in #14. A few include: .22 Hornet, .223 Rem, .243 Win, 6mm Rem, .257 Weatherby, 6.5x55....I stopped there, but you get the idea.
BTW, the above do not include cartridges with new date simply for new bullets, nor the addition of new cartridges like the .223 WSSM, .243 WSSM, .25 WSSM, etc. Speer #13 had 732 pages...#14 has 1149 pages.
No, for those who bother to pay attention the #14 manual is a LOT different than #13.
quote:
It s like Hodgdon is working with them to phase out old standbys like IMR 4895, 4064, 3031, 4198, RL 7 from Alliant...
Why would Hodgdon want to phase out their own powders? BTW it isn't the
amount of power you use that deterines the maker's profitability, it is the
margin on the particular powder. They may well make more profit on an older established powder than on a new one....or not.

With all the new powders coming on the market, reloaders want data for them. I suspect that is the reason for the changes. Look at a #45 Lyman manual compared to a #48 and you'll see what I mean.
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06 August 2008, 06:37
Jimmy BarnesI have the 48 but don't have the 49. What it looks like to me is that they have added some new calibers that they didn't have such as the 405 Winchester.