Is there a range or a "go to depth" when it comes to the Swift or is it all dependent on the rifle itself?Currently working up loads for a M77 and am seating at 10 thousandths off the lands but have seen where some guys seat at the lands or even a bit longer. I've got really tight bolt closure as is, but I don't believe that its due to OAL as like I said I'm at 10 off the lands. Using Norma, RP, Hornady and WW brass and full length sizing.

Check your case length, may be too long!

Hip

I have used dozens of the 220 Swift, wonderful cartridge.

I load all to the over all cartridge length.

With lighter bullets I seat each slightly over a caliber length.

Never messed up with seating depths, as my various tests showed very little difference!

You have tight bolt closure because you aren't sizing your brass all the way.
Seating depth is throat and magazine dependent; some Ruger have very long throats.

My very first 220 Swift was a Ruger 77.

It was given to me by my late friend Steve Vogel.

Steve was married to Bill Ruger’s daughter.

Wonderful family.

I used to stay at their house when I visited them.

Steve used to come to Dubai too.

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Originally posted by dpcd:
You have tight bolt closure because you aren't sizing your brass all the way.
Seating depth is throat and magazine dependent; some Ruger have very long throats.

I'm adjusting the die as per instructions. Set it to where the ram makes contact with the bottom of the die at full throw and then another quarter turn down to where there is a slight cam-over when the ram is fully thrown. Is this not correct?

Sounds right.

First, since this is a rimmed case, check for debris on the barrel/chamber area that could prevent the case rim from seating properly when closing the bolt. Could be dirt or brass shavings.

Second, try blackening the case shoulder/neck area of a resized and unloaded case and chamber and close the bolt on the case. If the case shoulder is contacting the chamber, then either the dies are oversize or you have a short chamber.

Yes that is good. Bring it over with your dies and brass and we can determine exactly what the issue is.

A third option could be a head space issue based on the rim thickness.

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I'm adjusting the die as per instructions. Set it to where the ram makes contact with the bottom of the die at full throw and then another quarter turn down to where there is a slight cam-over when the ram is fully thrown. Is this not correct?

It depends on the amount of flex in your press. I had a Lee press which flexed so much that even with a quarter turn after bottoming the ram, there was still a gap between the die and the shellholder when actually sizing a case. This caused hard chambering until I used almost 1/2 a turn of preload! I subsequently replaced the press, but all presses have some deflexion. Check to see if there is a gap between the die and shellholder with a case in the die.



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Originally posted by dpcd:
Yes that is good. Bring it over with your dies and brass and we can determine exactly what the issue is.

I sent you a PM

In some cases and I said "SOME" YOU MAY HAVE TO FILE DOWN A TAD OFF THE TOP OF THE BULLET SEATER (HOLDER), NOT THE SEATING DIE ITSELF.. SOUNDS LIKE YOU MIGHT NEED SOME GUIDENCE ON THIS..i SAY NOT THE DIE AS IF YOU REMOVE TOO MUCH FROM DIE YOUR IN TROUBLE WITH A RUINED DIE..THE SEATER COST ABOOUT 8 BUCKS OR LESS SO NO GREAT LOSS, AND YOU CAN START ALL OVER..

THEN YOU HAVE THE MAGAZINE WHICH MAY LIMIT THE DEPTH YOU CAN SEAT THE BULLET SO FIRST FIND OUT BY FITTING LOADED ROUND TO THE MAGAZINE..AND SEE IT IT WORKS IN THE GUN..IF SO USE THAT ROUND TO SEAT YOUR BULLET IN THE CHAMBER A TURN AT A TIME UNTIL YOU TOUCH THEN BACK OF A TAD AND YOUR PROBABLY AS CLOSE AS YOU CAN GET ON A FACTORY GUN..ONCE YOUR ROUND FITS THE MAGAZINE IN A RUGER OR MOST FACTORY RIFLES YOUR THERE AND CANT SEAT BULLETS OUT MORE AS RUGERS TEND TO HAVE THROATS LONGER THEN MAGAZINES, YOU HAVE THE OPTION AT THAT POINT TO SEEK A SMITH TO MATCH YOUR BULLET TO MAGAZINE AND TROAT...BUT MOST SHOOT FINE, IVE NOT FOUND IT CRITICAL AS SOME..SEEMS MOST GUNS SHOOT GOOD WITH A LITTLE TWEEKING OR THEY DONT..