Re: Moly Coating Bullets???

10 August 2004, 07:19

The corrosion issues is what really turns me away from moly. Especially since it is very humid here in La.

I have read alot of articles from authors who tested moly and its corrosion effects. I would rather deal w/ alittle fouling than worry about pits in my barrel.

Good Luck!

Reloader

10 August 2004, 07:53

30 Caliber Mag Fan

Zero Drift-

Thank you for your response. I have used Moly in the past and specifically the Ms. Moly application with fairly good success. My use of Moly was never the "cure all" that many claimed but, as a preventative treatment for fouling and a way to allow for easier cleaing of the rifle after shooting.

I had done some load development several months ago with my .300 WSM and after 36 rounds of shooting and cleaning after every third round with a well respected high end bore cleaner and bore brushes I ended up with quite a bit of copper on the lands.

Thus, I thought, I ought to Moly Coat the bullets before I load them and head this potential problem at the pass. I think I will heat the bullets with a hair dryer before I apply the Ms. Moly; that has served me well before. I thought that some good ole 90 plus degree August Texas heat was going to be enough. Guess, I guessed wrong.

I will also sniff around at some of the other Moly applicators and cost.

Thanks for your input.

10 August 2004, 10:23

Zero Drift

Not sure your bullet of choice, but Nosler, Sierra, Hornady, Berger and others offer factory coatings for a few extra cents per bullet. If you want to coat your own, NECO and other moly kits are available. It is a simple process of washing the bullets, peening the moly into bullet, coating with wax and you are off to the races.

I also use a moly bore prep when I am burnishing moly after a complete bore scrub or with a new bore. The main thing to remember is to make sure every bit of copper is out of your bore before you start with moly.

11 August 2004, 02:00

Hot Core

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The corrosion issues is what really turns me away from moly. Especially since it is very humid here in La.

I have read alot of articles from authors who tested moly and its corrosion effects. I would rather deal w/ alittle fouling than worry about pits in my barrel.

I've lived all over the Southeastern USA and agree that it can be humid in La. But you can say the same for any of the coastal areas where I've been.

Never had a problem with any kind of "pitting" due to Moly, but of course I clean and lightly re-lube all my rifles when they go outside. So in that respect, I agree with ZD, the use of Moly does not mean you can quit cleaning. You do need to change the way you do the cleaning slightly to maintain the Moly base-coat in the barrel.

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Also agree with Reloader " IF " the person using Moly DOES NOT clean and re-lube after shooting. And will also add the "pits" Reloader mentioned will form in rifles without Moly when they are shot and not cleaned in that same environment too.

The Humid environment is tough on stuff and if a person values his firearm, then he should clean it. The old phrase, "More rifles have been harmed by cleaning than shooting." is missing one word. It should read, "More rifles have been harmed by improper cleaning than shooting."

I use Moly in all except one of my rifles, which I'm shooting Lead Bullets in. Moly is great if you shoot a lot for increasing barrel life and if you want to reduce the cleaning time.

10 August 2004, 22:48

ErikD

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moly and its corrosion effects

So what would you recommend with bullets that come from the manufacturer already with Moly?

I'm going to use Rhino bullets this moose season and they are Moly coated from the factory in RSA.

Is removing the Moly an idea? And if so, how? Is there a "Moly remover" Seem to remember seening something like that at "Montana Extremes" website???

Erik D.

10 August 2004, 04:36

30 Caliber Mag Fan

Friends-

I haven't seen much in the way of any discussion on Moly Coating bullets in literature or on the boards recently.

Is Moly coating a fad that has met a timely demise or is it still alive and well?

Are there companies that will Moly Coat your bullets for you; I seem to remember some would.

I was applying some Ms. Moly to some bullets yesterday and the coating seemed a lot more delicate than I remember. It seemed that a good bit of the coating was coming off while seating the bullets.

I was reading the thread regarding the Barnes TSX bullets and the related copper fouling and it would seem that Moly might be a help. Just a thought.

Your thoughts are appreciated as always.

11 August 2004, 02:34

Reloader

Erik,

I just try to avoid the moly coated bullets and go w/ other brands. I don't see a problem w/ using them if you clean w/ a good inhibitor after every shooting session as Hot Core mentioned.

As to increased barrel life, you can put thousands of rounds down a barrel w/o moly coated bullets and still achieve accuracy. Most people never will put that many rounds through a rifle so, I think moly should only be used by the shooters that put several thousand through their rifles.

I know many rifle shooters that put hundreds of rounds through their tubes before cleaning and they still acheive pretty good groups.

Everyone has their own opinions, I just don't want to worry about my barrel being damaged by moly. A little copper can be taken care of alittle later down the road.

Good Luck!

Reloader