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45-70 Miss Fires

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13 May 2006, 01:53
Badshot10
45-70 Miss Fires
I'm getting miss fires in a 45-70 using 40grns of IMR3031 and large rifle primes. The primer will push a column of powder and the bullet into the rifling.
Factory loads work great, this is my first hand loading the 45-70.

Any ideas?
13 May 2006, 02:13
p dog shooter
Just guessing
1 powder get wet or oil or something.
2. improper neck tension on bullet.

What weight bullet are you using.

let us know what you find out.
13 May 2006, 02:44
Woodrow S
Your primers are not igniting the powder properly but still have enough energy to push the powder and bullet into the bore. Use a newer batch of primers if they are old or may have gotten damp. You could also try a different brand of primer as well as a heavy crimp. Try one change at a time so you get to the root cause of your problem and correct it, then let us know what you have found out.

Woody
13 May 2006, 02:51
bfrshooter
You have only 2 things that can be wrong! Bad primers or bad powder. 3031 is great in the 45-70 and will burn just fine with almost zero neck tension and no crimp. Even, firm neck tension will increase accuracy and help the burn, but I have used 3031 with unsized cases, just finger seating the boolits.
13 May 2006, 05:06
Pumpkinheaver
Imr-3031 ismy favorite pwoder for the 45-70. I would suggest 2 things. You need a heavy crimp(Iuse a lee factory crimpdie) and try a winchester primer.


Walk softly and carry a big bore!
13 May 2006, 06:27
NBHunter
Had exactly the same thing happen with mine using 340gr cast boolits and H335. Even loads that went bang had half the powder in the barrel. I tried a winchester magnum primer and a moderate crimp and it became a real gem of a load.


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13 May 2006, 06:58
grizz007
I can't see the blame on the powders. I have used VV-N133, IMR3031 an currently am using H322. I don't use a mag primer. Have shot quite a few hardcast and some 4 or 5 hundred rounds of jacketed of various brands. I try to see whereing lies the problem outside contaminated powder-moisture or mishandled primers. Crimping or not is not an issue unless you have them in a tubular mag. Now my only "misfires" occur when a primer is seated .002" or deeper so I just chuck them brass in the trash. Keep us informed.