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17 July 2007, 05:32
Paul Reed
Labor Department Announces It Will Revise Overreaching OSHA Explosives Rule
Thanks to diligent efforts by the NRA it looks like this proposed rule will be revised.

See OSHA Explosives Rule Revised


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17 July 2007, 05:37
ledvm
OSHA is a place even the mentally challenged can excel!!! Or should I say being mentally challenged is a prerequisite for working for OSHA.

In Texan OSHA means idiot!!!


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17 July 2007, 05:40
308Sako
That is excellent news. I can't believe this will stop the backdoor legislators, but perhaps if they got to spend some quality time in the jail cells they deserve they would discover just how much the backdoor could hurt them.






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17 July 2007, 12:44
mho
The NRA is a big part of why the US is such a great country!!

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18 July 2007, 03:44
N. S. Sherlock
Don't get too excited just yet. OSHA PLANS TO REVISE AND REISSUE THE PROPOSED REGULATIONS. Realize that any constriction in the supplies neccessary to maintain the shooting sportsat current or increased levels is an assault on the second amendment. Actually the NRA was caught napping. It was other associations that led the charge and of course, the huge numbers of shooters who wrote their congressmen. BE ON GUARD< THEY WILL BE BACK. N.S.


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18 July 2007, 07:50
Jim C. <><
I sent two messages about that issue, one to OSHA and one to my senator.

To OSHA I said I had actually tried to see the issue from their point of view but had been unable to get my head that far up my butt.

To my senator I said I'd appreciate it if he would encourage OSHA to back off.

I think the senators mentioning cutting OSHAs funding made more of an impact than any of our messages.

I was a plant Safety Officer for a government project for 7 years, got to know OSHA fairly well. Like any other gummit agency, OSHA has a few good men. Most of them are indifferent. The rest are officious asses working for promotions/pay raises, personal power and eventual early and greatly overpaid retirements at our expense. The third group runs the agency.
18 July 2007, 11:35
fredj338
quote:
Originally posted by Jim C. <><:
Most of them are indifferent. The rest are officious asses working for promotions/pay raises, personal power and eventual early and greatly overpaid retirements at our expense. The third group runs the agency.

You mean like most govt. employees? stir


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18 July 2007, 16:14
Joshua43214
quote:
Originally posted by N. S. Sherlock:
Don't get too excited just yet. OSHA PLANS TO REVISE AND REISSUE THE PROPOSED REGULATIONS. Realize that any constriction in the supplies neccessary to maintain the shooting sportsat current or increased levels is an assault on the second amendment. Actually the NRA was caught napping. It was other associations that led the charge and of course, the huge numbers of shooters who wrote their congressmen. BE ON GUARD< THEY WILL BE BACK. N.S.


Ya, I often feel like the NRA spends more time trolling me for money than actualy defending my rights. They always manage to fill my voice mail with scary warnings designed to make me lose sleep, but often miss this sort of thing. It took me over 10 attempts to get them to stop sending me their magazine, I wanted them to use the money for something else.

This is the sort of incramentalism that liberals excell at. This is not a random event, somewhere, someone decided this would be a good way take a poke at gun owners. No one at OSHA believes that smokeless powder needs to be handled the same way dynamite is. We too often make the mistake of believeing these people are stupid when they are often actualy quite crafty.


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18 July 2007, 23:51
muck
Joshua43214:
Just a thought.
If the NRA needs money where should they seek the funds?
Should they get a mailing list from The Violence Policy Center. I think not. Or should they send out mailings to gun friendly folks?
People involved in fund raising have a basic formula. If you need to raise X dollars, then you need to make Y number of contacts. That is why you are receiving mailings that request money.
If the NRA just asks for more money the response would not be very big. But If they explain why more money is needed to fight the newest anti-gun scourge, a better response is likely. Sort of "whipping up the troops" to generate interest/ money.
I have had this conversation with several NRA members who felt as you do. I hope this puts a new light on the fundraising mailings from the NRA.
Respond to the mailings when you want and can. Ignore them when you want

muck.
19 July 2007, 23:30
alex07
quote:
This is the sort of incramentalism that liberals excell at. This is not a random event, somewhere, someone decided this would be a good way take a poke at gun owners. No one at OSHA believes that smokeless powder needs to be handled the same way dynamite is. We too often make the mistake of believeing these people are stupid when they are often actualy quite crafty.


I couldn't agree more. Sometimes I get more annoyed by people trying to defend organizations like OSHA, than I do of the actual agencies. Do we need safety in the workplace,...sure. Do we need some sort of gun control to keep guns out of the hands of the mentally unstable, people with violent pasts, and criminals,....absolutley, but OSHA, the Brady Campaign, the ACLU and others are obviously just fronts for our enemies, at home and abroad to further their agendas. Anyone who thinks otherwise is naive, or in denial.


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21 July 2007, 01:10
RupertBear
quote:
This is the sort of incramentalism that liberals excell at. This is not a random event, somewhere, someone decided this would be a good way take a poke at gun owners. No one at OSHA believes that smokeless powder needs to be handled the same way dynamite is. We too often make the mistake of believeing these people are stupid when they are often actualy quite crafty.


I do wish that this were true. Knowing who your enemy is and where he is makes defense a lot easier. In this case, though, it is simply the (predicted) result of actions initiated by Al Gore and perpetuated by George Bush. Al started the ball rolling with his efforts to "reinvent government" and George continued it with his many, many efforts to privatize governmental agencies, all of which has resulted in a civil service that is more disorganized and inefficient than when Teddy Roosevelt tried to end the patronage system. Add in to the mix the 'graying of America' (a lot of the people with experience and an undestanding of the way the system works and are retiring) and you end up with a government that is broken.

Whether you agree or not that much of what the government now does is required, needed, or even legal, a perusal of the Constitution will show that there are certain things that the US Government should be doing. Because of the destruction of the professional class of civil servants (and all the jokes that implies), this OSHA mess is only the very beginning of the the hogwash that we are going to see over the next decade.

Nope, it wasn't the gun-banning, secular-humanist, devil-worshipping, liberals and fellow-travelers that did it; it was simple ineptitude on the part of the agency. That ineptitude will become common before long.


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21 July 2007, 18:01
Joshua43214
quote:
Originally posted by RupertBear:

Whether you agree or not that much of what the government now does is required, needed, or even legal, a perusal of the Constitution will show that there are certain things that the US Government should be doing.


While I am not finding any fault in your logic, I am not sure I understand your constitutional reference. What language in the constitution supports even the existance of OSHA? Just the article number is enough so I can look it up.

Thanks
Josh


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