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30 06 180 gr patition loads
30 January 2004, 18:53
GSP730 06 180 gr patition loads
Im just starting to load 180 gr partitions in 30 06. what powder do you guys like?
I have H4350, h4831 , R 19, R 22
Is H4350 a good choice with the 180 gr bullet or should I go slower burning with H 4831 . Ill try them both , but what do you all like ?
30 January 2004, 22:51
kutenaymtnboyI have owned many .30-06 rifles and loaded thousands of rounds for this superb cartridge, including about an honest 1500 Nosler 180 Pts. I have used all of the powders you have, but, my main powder has always been IMR-4350 in the following recipe.
Win. or Fed. brass, 180 Nosler Pt., CCI 250 or Fed. 215, 57 grs. IMR-4350
This is a top load and has NEVER given me any excess pressure signs in any rifle I have owned. Start at 52 grs. and work up, depending on your conponent lots and individual rifle. I am, of course, well aware of the difference in case capacity of the above brass, but, it works fine in these rifles.
Browning Safari Grd. LE
Mannlicher-Schoenauer carbine
Brno-ZG-47 LWT
Brno ZG-47 Std,
Pre- 64 Mod. 70 FWT
With barrels from 20"-23.5", I get from 2725-2780 fps. MV and sub. MOA accuracy. I would expect the H-4350, up to 57.5 grs. to do about as well. What more can you ask for?
30 January 2004, 22:52
DUKReloader 19 gives me excellent results with the 180 grain Partitions.
31 January 2004, 03:42
beemanbemesame as Kute... Excellant choice, excellant load.
31 January 2004, 03:48
Jerry EdenI also load 57 grains of 4350, with the 180 Nosler partition. Velocity runs around 2815-2825 fps out of my custom Springfield 03. Groups at 1" or less. Have taken 5 elk with that load, all one shot kills. Work up though, as your throating etc. will surly be different than mine.
Jerry
31 January 2004, 04:30
POP56 gr H4350.....60 gr RL22
Good for 2700 fps and usually great accuracy.
31 January 2004, 04:49
BradIn my stainless 22" bbl'd M70 fwt I use 57.5 H4350 for 2,820 and 61 RL22 for the same velocity. I use a Lee factory crimp die and that does seem to boost velocity a bit but these are book loads and show no signs of being excessive. Another identical M70 runs the same loads about 60 fps slower.
H4831sc couldn't give me the same velocity as H4350 or RL22.
As an aside, I just picked up some "Protected Point" 180 Nosler Partition's yesterday... the "Spire Points" were ridiculously battered in my magazine this year and they'd have had less BC than the protected point because of how flattened the tip's had become... I figure the PP's are the better way to go unless someone knows a way to prevent that sort of battering. I'll report back as to accuracy.
BA
31 January 2004, 05:05
POPQuote:
As an aside, I just picked up some "Protected Point" 180 Nosler Partition's yesterday... the "Spire Points" were ridiculously battered in my magazine this year and they'd have had less BC than the protected point because of how flattened the tip's had become... I figure the PP's are the better way to go unless someone knows a way to prevent that sort of battering. I'll report back as to accuracy.
BA
Buy some 180 Accubonds. Basically same performance as the NP, and better BC and ........Usually accuracy!
31 January 2004, 05:06
POPQuote:
As an aside, I just picked up some "Protected Point" 180 Nosler Partition's yesterday... the "Spire Points" were ridiculously battered in my magazine this year and they'd have had less BC than the protected point because of how flattened the tip's had become... I figure the PP's are the better way to go unless someone knows a way to prevent that sort of battering. I'll report back as to accuracy.
BA
Buy some 180 Accubonds. Basically same performance as the NP, (especially at 30-06 velocities) and better BC and ........Usually accuracy!
31 January 2004, 05:41
Calif HunterI go along with the H-4350 crowd. 56 gr with a Nosler 180 gr Partition - works great.
31 January 2004, 05:51
packratAnother vote for IMR 4350. After more than 50 years, it still remains the "wonder powder".
31 January 2004, 08:38
vapodogH 4350 or H 4831 for me.
31 January 2004, 09:05
fredj338I've been loading 180grNPs over 60.5gr RL22 in my son's o6. It's 1MOA @ 2750fps+. IMR4831 is also a good performer w/ the 180gr bullets.
31 January 2004, 10:33
Rich ElliottSince 1972 in my old Remington 700 BDL (restocked three times) ...57 grains IMR 4350 WW Brass, 180 Nosler Partitons, WLR primers. <1 inch groups and 2,725 fps. Shot a lot of game with it. Work up to that load. I tried it in my 700 Rem. Mt. Rifle and blew a primer!
Rich Elliott
31 January 2004, 19:03
BradPOP, this rifle absolutely refuses to shoot any bullet with a boattail...
31 January 2004, 19:29
ColeIf you don't get good accuracy with your rifle shooting boatails check the muzzle crown ,it may need recrowning --a nick or muzzle wear can cause exiting gas to induce a slight side thrust to the heel of the exiting bullet. I also use 4350 the most for 30/06.
31 January 2004, 22:27
sputsterIMR 4350 and IMR 4831 were good performers for me with 180gr. Rem PSP's and Bronze Points.
01 February 2004, 05:44
BradCole, been there done that... nada.
01 February 2004, 06:37
<allen day>Brad, I've been shooting 180 gr, Nosler Partition Protected Points almost exclusively in my .300 Win. Mag. for the last several years. I have at least of score of these that I've recovered from stuff as small as Coues deer, and from stuff as big as Cape eland. Over the years, I've been amazed at how many rifles shoot this bullet well. Extremely consistent on game, and the Protected Point design DOES resist battering very well. You give up some BC compared to the regular SP Partition, but in the real world, that hasn't proven to be much of a handicap. A superb hunting bullet in all respects.....
As a sidenote, I don't care if boatails shoot well for me or not. Flat-base bullets make for better hunting bullets in everything but varmint rifles, pure and simple. Ross Seyfired made extensive note of this recently, and I agree with his conclusions.
My best .30-06 loads have been built around Winchester cases, Federal 215 primers, IMR 4831 powder, and 180 gr. Nosler Partitions. If that was my only .30-06 load for all purposes, I'd be completely satisfied.
AD
01 February 2004, 12:36
todbartellI've had good luck with Winchester WXR

01 February 2004, 20:18
cliffs2H4350 for me.