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W-W LR primers not real tight in fresh W-W brass

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23 March 2004, 14:30
old4x4
W-W LR primers not real tight in fresh W-W brass
I always notice this even with fresh brass of any caliber. Are Win primers a little small or the pockets oversize?? What are your observations?
23 March 2004, 16:50
JohnT
I notice the same thing but they always function OK. I also use WW brass & WLR primers.

If you are concerned use Federal. I notice they are a tighter fit.

Regards
JohnT
23 March 2004, 17:21
muck
I have been using Win primers for years. I think what you are noticing is that Win Primers are made with from a softer cup metal. I have noted that Win primers seem to seat easier and "flatten" at similar pressures that seem to have no effect on Rem or Fed or CCI primers.

muck
23 March 2004, 15:29
Savage99
Get out your mike and tell us what they measure.
23 March 2004, 17:26
Brad
Yeah, I have a lot of 1,000 and they're not very tight. Word I've heard is that when the boys at Olin did away with the silver plating on the primers they didn't realize they had to increase the cup to compensate for the lost extra metal... apparently they've now made the change and only older lots have this problem.
23 March 2004, 17:48
Clark
SAAMI specifications on primers and primer pockets per "Sinclair International's Precision Reloading & Shooting Handbook" 10th edition 1999



......................Depth min max diameter min max

small rifle primer pocket .117 .123 .1730 .1745

small pistol primer pocket .117 .123 .1730 .1745

Large rifle primer pocket .125 .132 .2085 .2100

Large pistol primer pocket .117 .123 .2085 .2100



.......................Height min max Diameter min max

Small rifle primers .115 .125 .1745 .1765

small pistol primers .115 .125 .1745 .1765

large rifle primers .123 .133 .2105 .2130

large pistol primers .115 .125 .2100 .2120"



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23 March 2004, 17:56
boilerroom
Quote:

I always notice this even with fresh brass of any caliber. Are Win primers a little small or the pockets oversize?? What are your observations?




I've noticed that Winchester primers are a tad smaller. They seem to go in with alarming ease sometimes after the case has been sized several times. I've never seen gas leaks around them so I no longer am concerned.
23 March 2004, 15:14
RiflemanZ
I never had a problem reloading 45-70 brass or 44Mag brass.I use rcbs dies and a lee fac crimp die.