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29 October 2002, 02:45
<Rezdog>
Rimfire Shell Holders
Does anyone out there make shell holders for the .22 LR and the .22 Magnum rimfires??? [Confused]
29 October 2002, 03:26
trb
Never heard about shellholders for rimfires, why would you want one?? Just curious!
29 October 2002, 03:32
amosgreg
I have the NEF 17 HMR (based on 22 mag) so I am interested in this as well.
I currently carry the box in a shirt pocket and a couple extras in my fingers but it would be great to have a shell holder on a wrist or on the rifle stock.
29 October 2002, 05:13
<Rezdog>
The shell holders I'm referring to mount on the ram of a reloading press. Makes it possible to pull rimfire bullets, reform cases, etc. There ARE wilcatters out there working on rimfires. As far a wrist/belt holder, why not get some wide black elastic and sew in velcro so it'll fit around your wrist and then get someone with a sewing machine to sew some cartridge loops on using a narrow strip of elastic.
29 October 2002, 05:22
R-WEST
Rezdog - Reading an article about the development of the 17 HMR, I remember seeing something about the guys who tried "wildcatting" the 22 Mag, so, there must be a shellholder out there somewhere.

With the primer in the rim, getting a little frisky with the press handle while trying to pull a bullet, I'd imagine you could set it off. That could get interesting [Eek!]

R-WEST
29 October 2002, 05:47
amosgreg
Sorry Rezdog,
Wrong assumption about the definition!
29 October 2002, 07:24
Pecos41
R-West - Exactly right! The operative word here is RIM - FIRE and this is why you don't want to be clanking them around in a shell holder. Sounds like a good way to win a trip to the emergency room and some possible SERIOUS eye injury to me.

No thanks.
29 October 2002, 08:29
<Rezdog>
There are OLD reloaders and there are BOLD reloaders but there are no OLD BOLD reloaders. Or so they say. I think I'm both old and bold and have enough experience/gonads to try just about anything so long as it isn't patently insane. Yes, I agree that a light touch would be in order. A shellholder would offer significant support to the rim/base (as opposed to a firing pin) and with an easy touch one shouldn't encounter problems. Oh, yeah... Safety Glasses.
29 October 2002, 10:51
claybuster
I picked up a brick of rem..22lr. ammo at a show one time and 15% of the rounds wouldn't fire.I pulled the bullets from the dud rounds and found that the primer compound had cracked and fell out of the rim and was mixed in with the powder.Old and bold,,,I know this man[retired] at my trap and skeet club that is very handy with machine tools and stuff,he made his own 12ga.to .410 conversion tubes for his shotguns,and for the most part a really smart and nice person.I was at the club a while ago and saw he had his hand bandaged.It seems that he was trying to salvage some live primers from some bad hulls and was catching the live primers with his hand as they fell out,,,,untill it went terribly wrong and one lit off and went clean through the thick of his hand.
29 October 2002, 11:33
captnemo
Does anyone out there make shell holders for the .22 LR and the .22 Magnum rimfires???

Check the dimensions for the .25 ACP case--I think that that shell holder might work.

the_captn
30 October 2002, 02:35
<Rezdog>
Good tip on the .25 acp shell holder; thanks. It will handle the .22 magnum case. Super X headstamped cases were inconsistent and only about half would fit. .22 LR will not work in this shellholder.
30 October 2002, 04:22
Pecos41
Rez - Don't say I din't warn you! [Eek!] Good luck.
30 October 2002, 04:37
Dino32HR
Rezdog,

I would think Lee Precision would make them for you at a reasonable cost. I wouldn't tell them what you're doing with them though ! [Wink]

Just give them the dimensions you want and they'll quote a price.
30 October 2002, 05:05
tasco 74
i suppose this is a real dumb question but here goes. do you dare use an inpact style puller for such an undertakeing. i suppose that would guantee a detonation considering the case configuration. i never thought about pulling rimfire bullets i guess.

the 2nd amendment protects the whole constitution......
30 October 2002, 10:26
<Rezdog>
The idea of pulling bullets using a collet die rather than in an impact puller is what got me to thinking about this in the first place. I think it would be foolhardy to use an impact puller; a collet puller is much gentler. And then (as noted above) I also read about how wildcatters had broken the ground on what was to become the .17 HMR. I'm a bit intrigued with the idea of experimenting with rimfires a bit, just to add to my overall reloading expertise (and possibly to add to the schrapnel that I am already carrying). Just FYI, in "Hatcher's Notebook" he talks about using an arc welder to fire cartridges laying on a block of soap inside a cardboard box as a forensic experiment. In no case did any pieces of the case or bullet penetrate the cardboard box and the soap bar was only mildly dented. Outside of a chamber, ammo just can't build up the force to be "explosive." Lots of clearance inside a collet bullet puller. I would be careful during any resizing/reforming and bullet seating operations as they take place in a confined space. A concerned reloader could fabricate a blast shield from Lexan plastic and keep the hands away from the shell holder and die at the top of the stroke (one hand is already on the press handle).
31 October 2002, 10:57
claybuster
Heck,,if you're not going to re-use the pulled bullets,,,you might be able to just clamp on to them with a pair of vise grips and pull them by hand,,Been doing that with .22lr for years,without the vise grips.