I stopped by our local Murdocks yesterday and was happy to see that they had a fair supply of powders.

They limit you to 2 cans of powder, so I picked up a can of Titewad and a can of H4831SC.

It wasn't until I got home that I noticed that the Net Weight of powder in each can was only 14 oz!

The cans are the same size as the ones that they sold for years filled with 1 lb of powder.

So is this Hodgdon's answer to the powder shortage? Pack less product into the same size can then raise the price. In other words, screw the consumer every way that you can.

Are both 14oz? Reason I ask their website lists 14oz for Titewad but still shows 1# for 4831.

Seems an unusual weight to package powder. H4831SC is just repackaged Australian made AR4831SC which is sold in 500gm factory packaging (smallest available) or from some suppliers here we get it in labelled 500gm pottles obviously broken down from bulk imported containers.

14oz is only 397gms so the packaging you have bought doesn't match the norm of either 500gms or 1 lb (454gms).

It's a sneaky way to keep the price the same but provide less commodity. Few people will notice the 2 oz shortage and for every 7 cans they sell, they gain another.
As every one has noticed by now, 5# of coffee weighs 3.5#.

Maybe Titewad (Titegroup?) is a bulky powder and they can't get more in the can - I say this as someone who buys huge cannisters of Trail boss and I don't get much by weight.

I just bought four canisters of CFE 223 and it is marked "1 Pound".

Pistol and shotgun powders, generally being less dense than rifle powders, are sometimes sold in smaller weights than one-pound. Perhaps it was only the Tightwad that was only 14 oz.?

OR, if the H4831SSC was packaged in Australia as a 400 gram container, it would be legal to represent it as 14 oz since 400 grams is slightly more than 14 oz. Nonetheless, it would be deceitful to sell 14 oz. containers which have traditionally been 16 oz. containers without some prominent notice to the buying public.

All Hodgdon extruded rifle powders are made in Australia and much of the other Hodgdon powders are too, including some IMR powders.

We know the Aussie extruded rifle powders as ADI AR series powder and the smallest packaging is 500gms. Obviously this powder when sold as Hodgdon or IMR has been packaged to suit these companies branding and quite possibly could come in different weight packaging.
The MSDS sheets published on the Hodgdon website for their powders prove without doubt that the manufacturer of their powders is Australian Munitions (Thales Australia Ltd).

The loading data that Hodgdon publish for their powders is also taken straight from the ADI reloading manual the 6th Edition of which is available to download from the ADI website. It is a very informative manual with a huge library of loads and ballistics information.

This is from another site, and is taken from an e-mail from ADI that answers a question about which powders they supply to Hodgdon:

ADI / HODGDON

AS30N=Clays
Trail Boss=Trail Boss
AS50N=International
AP50N=Universal
AR2205=H4227
AR2207=H4198
AR2219=H322
BM2=Benchmark
AR2206H=H4895
AR2208=Varget
AR2209=H4350
AR2213SC=H4831 / H4831SC
AR2217=H1000
AR2225=Retumbo
AR2218=H50BMG

I bought two canisters of H4831SC today, both are 1 lb.

Let us know if you ever find out how you got the 14 ouncers.


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