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Hodgdon EXTREME Powders vs Allianat etc..
11 September 2006, 03:38
michauxiiHodgdon EXTREME Powders vs Allianat etc..
How much is the hype for the Extreme powders by Hodgdon applicable to "real world" shooting conditions?
Do they really perform that much better than other powders in average conditions.. say from 95 degrees down to 10 degrees?
I truly do not know, I just work up loads that my rifles seem to like. But I plan to hunt in some colder climates than East Texas next year (Saskatchewan) and don't want the 7STW to fail in exremely frigid conditions...
11 September 2006, 03:43
RustyI have use the 4831SC Extreme in my 404 Jeffery. Very accurate throws in my Lyman 2000 and with irons sights at 50 yards, 3 shots touchinng.
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11 September 2006, 04:45
stubblejumperI can tell you that I use imr7828 in my own 7mmstws,and that I live in northern Alberta. I hunt Alberta and Saskatchewan,and my loads have functioned perfectly at -30 degrees.
11 September 2006, 07:33
lb404I have numerous rifles to play with. I like the speed I get with the Allient powders. They are a little temerature sensitive. The extreme powders on whole are a tad bit slower BUT, they are far more consistant on accuracy and velocity over a range of temperature. You must be careful if working up loads to the top velocity with RS?? compared to the Hogden offerings. On a hot day the RL 22 loads will really sizzle compared to a cool day with the same powder.
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11 September 2006, 10:00
glockmeister71I had a 308 that would shoot in high .100's at 100yds all year with one Hodgdon powder.I tried some RL-15 loads in the summer that produced mid .700's,but spread out to 1.700's in the winter.I've always had best results for every reason using Hodgdon powders in my rifle loads.They're the only brand I even keep on hand.
11 September 2006, 19:39
Ol` JoeI haven`t seen a whole lot of diffference in my loads with either when hunting at temps 20F - 60F. The difference seems to come at high temp. I see more variation in velocity between 60 and 90F with Alliant powders then I see between 20 and 60. The extreem powders seem to be pretty much the same acting across these temps. They do vary but not as much in my experiance. If you are shooting a load developed in fall or spring temps on a hot summer P dog hunt in 95F temps I would prefer to be useing Hodgdons stuff over Alliants. To chase deer in the fall at 20F either will work OK.
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15 September 2006, 00:55
sonny Crockitwell all i can say is that H4198 Gives me real tight groups in my 223 Remington and so-so in my 7.62x39. Allaint RL-15 does also gave tight groups in the 223 remington, but these where load and fired during the summer too
15 September 2006, 21:30
bbellI hunt in Saskatchewan where I work up loads in summer at 80F and hunt when its -20 to -30F. I I have found that with imr, and winchester ball powders there is a significant reduction in pressures, and often group size and point of impact between 80 and -20f. This is easy to compensate for by working up loads in the summer and adding one or two grains more (depending on case volume and gun) of powder when hunting season roles around. Puts everything right back to where it was before. I have not tried the same experiments with the extreme line of powders.