ALL AMERICANS PLEASE READ THIS!!!

07 January 2003, 07:33

I just came from another board that had pointed this out. It is apparently confined to the Indiana legislative for now but if it passes there it's over. I hope I'm overreacting but please go the link below and look at House Bill 1011 (HB 1011). Let me know what you think. Not to mention the one after gun shows, but 1011 is a show stopper!

I hate it when this happens [Mad]

XWind

Felony to Manufacture or Possess Ammunition

07 January 2003, 07:56

outlawsix

Why is it that the 1 st amendment allows everyone to say or write what they want regardless of its content, porn, tabloid,communist, devil worshipers, whatever. Yet the 2nd amendment has been trampled on doesn't mean what it says and is only ment for the military and law enforcement. This country, wether local or national, is run by a bunch of non veteran, college grad, snooty, career politicans who care not about the good of man but only about what it will take to keep their jobs and be able to retire with more benefits and luxuries than the people they are suppose to serve. It may be time for people to stop blindly following the " leaders" and take an active part in government questioning why there is a need for the working people of america to support not only this country and its wastfulness of money but also the rest of the world who for the most part doesn't even like america. It reminds me of that childrens movie " A buggs life" it's not until the ant realize that they have the power that it gets better. In no way am I implying a revolution far from it. I just want to know what happened in this country that made it alright to embrace homesuxals, or what ever you are but it is not correct to hold fast to the ideas and belifs on which this country was formed. I know this isn't the political forum but enough is enough the line in the sand has been drawn. Just to keep it on reloading anybody has any good loads with retumbo for the 7 STW.

07 January 2003, 08:04

Bill M

HB1050 ought to turn everyone in the state into instant fellons - anybody have cold capsules AND a bottle of lighter fluid in their house?...

Good post outlawsix. Thanks for the info XWind.

And they said they would quit after they got the Brady Bill passed....

Bill

07 January 2003, 08:07

<t_bob38>

Read "Unintended Consequences"

http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?userid=2UY4R9AVSQ&isbn=1888118040&itm=1

07 January 2003, 08:35

pertinax

I agree about reading it, but I'd suggest ordering it from your local bookstore, and paying cash...

07 January 2003, 08:57

<t_bob38>

>I agree about reading it, but I'd suggest ordering it from your local bookstore, and paying cash... <

Surely you don't think anyone would stoop to holding reading preferences against you. Do you?

07 January 2003, 09:01

carcano91

quote:
Originally posted by t_bob38:
I agree about reading it, but I'd suggest ordering it from your local bookstore, and paying cash...

Surely you don't think anyone would stoop to holding reading preferences against you. Do you?

Pertinax is aware of current US developments and lawsuits, and apparently also watches TV - it appears you are not.

Carcano

07 January 2003, 09:39

<t_bob38>

>Pertinax is aware of current US developments and lawsuits, and apparently also watches TV - it appears you are not.<

On the contrary, I'm acutely aware of what's going on. My comment was tongue in cheek. Caught you didn't I, Carcano?

07 January 2003, 09:45

carcano91

quote:
Originally posted by t_bob38:
On the contrary, I'm acutely aware of what's going on. My comment was tongue in cheek. Caught you didn't I, Carcano?

Caught me indeed in the full blossom of my lack of comprehension [Wink]

- and please accept my apology !

Best regards,
Carcano

07 January 2003, 09:52

<t_bob38>

I think the book would make a good gift for your Senators and Representatives. I believe Senator Schumer already knows about it, however, for those of you in NY.

07 January 2003, 09:54

XWind

Ok I surrender. Apparently I am overreacting and the fact that there's a House Bill in the pipeline in ANY state that would make handloading for my .308 (and your .223, 30-06, etc etc) a double felony (manufacture and possession) is not worth worrying about. I'm sure apathy will prevail and 'someone else' will make sure this doesn't happen here...right [Roll Eyes]

XWind

07 January 2003, 10:03

<t_bob38>

Indiana HOUSE BILL No. 1011 is a violation of the 2nd Ammendment to the Constitution of the United States. Anyone who supports it is guilty of treason.

07 January 2003, 11:46

XWind

quote:
Originally posted by t_bob38:
Indiana HOUSE BILL No. 1011 is a violation of the 2nd Ammendment to the Constitution of the United States. Anyone who supports it is guilty of treason.

Maybe so. But 'we' have already allowed 'them' to allow the states the right to ban fully automatic weapons. I may be mistaken but this is an extension of an existing Indiana law making the 'ownership or possession' of an automatic weapon a felony. It's a short step to semi-automatic. There is a large bunch of deep pocketed gun grabbers that claim the only guns that should be legal are the ones that were around when the 2nd amendment was written. I lose sleep over this stuff and again, please don't shoot the messenger.

XWind

07 January 2003, 12:06

PoiDog

Just a minor correction, XWind, Indiana is a Class 3 state. Perhaps you have it confused with my sorry home state just across the border. (Illinois)

07 January 2003, 12:15

XWind

quote:
Originally posted by PoiDog:
Just a minor correction, XWind, Indiana is a Class 3 state. Perhaps you have it confused with my sorry home state just across the border. (Illinois)

Thank you PoiDog, I stand corrected, but undeterred.

XWind

07 January 2003, 12:24

Major Caliber

quote:
Originally posted by t_bob38:
Indiana HOUSE BILL No. 1011 is a violation of the 2nd Ammendment to the Constitution of the United States. Anyone who supports it is guilty of treason.

I agree with you!!!!!!!

07 January 2003, 12:37

<t_bob38>

From the Indiana State Constitution:

"Section 32. Arms--Right to bear
Section 32. The people shall have a right to bear arms, for the defense of themselves and the State."

http://www.law.indiana.edu/uslawdocs/inconst/art-1.html#sec-1

08 January 2003, 02:59

<rws2>

I send this post to my buddy in Indianapolis and he has got on it.He alerted his Gun Club and got everyone in his office to email the Indiana State Reps. about this nonsense.
A BIG THANKS for the heads up.My buddy said he never knew anything about it nor did anyone he's passed this on to.Thank Again!!! rws2

08 January 2003, 08:23

XWind

quote:
Originally posted by rws2:
I send this post to my buddy in Indianapolis and he has got on it.He alerted his Gun Club and got everyone in his office to email the Indiana State Reps. about this nonsense.

RWS, thanks for understanding the significance of this and moving it on to our shooting buddies in Indiana so they can jump on it hard, fast and often. I appreciate your effort and hopefully they can nip this thing in the bud, plus know where to keep an eye out for other related BS. [Mad]

XWind