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Speed of .30-30 load
28 September 2010, 04:20
Montana SlimSpeed of .30-30 load
I know that someone has ran the numbers on this load.
.30-30 Handi Rifle 22 inch barrel
36 grains of H-4895.
Please respond so I can work up a drop chart.
Thanks in Advance
Montana
Montana
28 September 2010, 04:21
Montana SlimForgot to mention bullet.
125 grain Nosler BT.
Montana
28 September 2010, 05:14
friarmeierWell...really hard to say without having a chrony to actually clock how fast they're going. Book values may be very different from your gun.
You'd probably be better served just to set up a series of targets at 50, 100, 150, & 200 yards, and just see where you're rounds are hitting. Adjust your trajectory as desired, and then you'll know actual values, rather than just an educated guess.
Do you have a place to shoot to 200 yards?
good luck on the season!
friar
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28 September 2010, 07:54
wrongtargetHere ya go, 22" Handi, chrony 15' from the muzzle, 100yd range.
http://www.noslerreloading.com...opic.php?f=16&t=1347 Trajectory for Nosler .308 dia. 125 gr. Ballistic Tip at 2445 Feet per Second At an Elevation Angle of: 0 degrees
Ballistic Coefficients of: 0.366 0.366 0.366 0.366 0.366
Wind Direction is: 250.0 o'clock and a Wind Velocity of: 0.0 Miles per hour
Wind Components are (Miles per Hour): DownRange: 0.0 Cross Range: 0.0 Vertical: 0.0
Altitude: 0 Feet with a Standard Atmospheric Model.
Temperature: 59 F
Data Printed in English Units
Range Velocity Energy Momentum Drop Bullet Path Wind Drift Time of Flight
(Yards) (Ft/Sec) (Ft/Lbs) (Lb-Sec) (inches) (inches) (inches) (Seconds)
0 2445.0 1659.0 1.36 -0.18 0.25 23430.58 0.000000000
50 2329.4 1505.8 1.29 -0.75 1.45 0.0 0.062854743
100 2216.9 1363.8 1.23 -3.1 2.8 0.0 0.128863924
150 2107.4 1232.5 1.17 -7.23 2.38 0.0 0.198262927
200 2001.1 1111.3 1.11 -13.31 0.0 0.0 0.271308374
250 1898.1 999.8 1.05 -21.56 -4.55 0.0 0.348276537
300 1798.6 897.7 1.00 -32.23 -11.52 0.0 0.429464220
28 September 2010, 08:52
friarmeierThat's not bad at all!
Check out Norma Ammunition's ballistic calculator. Make sure you click on the "Ballistic US" tab (unless you like metric!).
Once you're in the calculator, click on the "Define your own bullet" tab.
here's the site:
http://www.norma.cc/default.asp?Lang=2That should give you what you need for a drop chart.
friar
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28 September 2010, 12:13
Bobby TomekKeep in mind that someone else's load -- even though the components and barrel length may be the same -- can vary up to a couple hundred feet per second from yours thanks to differences in chamber dimensions, throat length and bore condition, not to mention lot-to-lot component variations.
Bobby
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28 September 2010, 17:29
Hot CoreHey Slim, I'll use one of my "guesstimates" and pick 2554.79fps as an Average for 1000 shots. Or just round off to 2555fps, since it is a "guess".
I'll "guess" if you Sight-In Dead-On at 100yds, you will be about 2.5" lower at 200yds. And I'll "guess" you will be out of Adequate Energy beyond 225yds or so.
Final "Guess" is if you can stick one in just behind the On-Side Shoulder so it heads directly into the Off-Side Shoulder, within 200yds, it will be Drag Stick time.

28 September 2010, 20:34
wrongtargetBobby is 100% right on that, I have 3 H&R 30-30s, one is an Ackley, Remington factory 150gr ammo averages 2330fps in one 30-30, 2190fps in the same barrel I shot the 125gr BT/H4895 in and 2050fps in the Ackley which does 2875fps with 125gr Sierra SPT in 375Win brass.
The best way to learn the trajectory of a load in your rifle is to shoot it at the ranges you intend to shoot if you can, next best would be to get chrony data from your rifle and not rely on a sample or two from others.
06 November 2010, 08:11
Montana SlimThanks Guys,
I have shot it to 250 yds and it looks like the 2550 guess is close. Most of the area around a 200 yd shot is a long one. I have killed a few with a 35 Rem at this range but the hold over gets to be a guesstimate. I wanted this 30-30 load for these areas. With a Win factory 150 it is 1 inch high at 100 and with this handload it hits 3 inchs high at 100 with no windage deviation. Now how lucky is that!
Montana
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