03 September 2013, 05:33
sam184primer ?
saw some cci primers and on the box it was marked no 40 or 41 on the box. also printed on the box it stated for 5.56. I have regular and mil-cases with mil-crimp removed I also have mil-cases still with the crimp. can I use them in only cases that are regular or mil- cases with crimp removed or just in cases with mil-crimp still in place ? When reloading which one were they designed for ? Yes at my old age I am first learning.
03 September 2013, 06:08
wasbeemanfirst off, you'll have to remove the military crimp before you can do any re-priming.
03 September 2013, 06:15
ted thornThe CCI 5.56 primers are designed for the AR platform with a harder cup to help prevent slam fire from the floating fireing pin
As Beeman states.....you must remove the crimp
Either swag it or cut it out
03 September 2013, 18:15
wasbeemanSo would it be safe to say that you could use the harder primers in a bolt rifle, ie 700, but couldn't use a standard primer in the AR?
03 September 2013, 19:11
ted thornI use the standard small rifle primmers in all of my AR15 loads.
I just know the others were created to help with a slamfire issue.
Ive yet to have a malfunction shooting semi or full auto
03 September 2013, 20:04
sam184so if I understand whats said so far. both primers are the same size, just that one has a harder cup aimed for the one that loads for the ar line-up but could be used in a bolt action if need be. all cases have to have crimp removed if they have them.Do all factory loads sold in 223cal have crimped primer pockets if I use those cases and WHY the mil-crimp?
03 September 2013, 22:04
larrysquote:
both primers are the same size, just that one has a harder cup aimed for the one that loads for the ar line-up but could be used in a bolt action if need be.
That is correct.
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all cases have to have crimp removed if they have them
That is also correct.
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Do all factory loads sold in 223cal have crimped primer pockets if I use those cases
Not all factory loads have the crimped primers. This is usually just for military rounds, so if you look to buy ammo, it it says Mil-spec, SS109 (or whatever numbers), or 5.56 instead of 223, then it probably has a crimped primer. USUALLY if you get a round that is not FMJ, it will be non-crimped, but not always. USUALLY if it has a specialty bullet like HP or VMAX, it is not crimped, but the only way to tell for sure is to look. Most "commercial" rounds are not crimped.
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WHY the mil-crimp?
Because the military has to have the most foolproof reliable ammo possible and if there is a chance that the primer will back out during recoil (for the rounds in the magazine), they need them to be crimped in.