Shipping powder to Canada

02 October 2003, 03:22

dan belisle

Ok, so I got a deal on some powder when I was working in Montana, and now I have to figure out how to get it home. For business reasons I had to fly, and carrying it in your checked baggage is a no no (also in the Bozeman/Belgrade airport, they search your checked luggage, before you get to check it in). Does anyone know of a carrier who will bring it across the border? Right now this is just a small test sample, but if I can find a reliable carrier, I will use it for, shall we say, "larger quantities". - Dan

02 October 2003, 10:44

dan belisle

OK, what's the legal way for me to ship powder between two US addresses? - Dan

02 October 2003, 10:58

Hi, Dan:

I'm not sure, but I don't think powder is restricted in any way under Cdn. firearms regs. as long as it's a small quantity (which I recall being big to me).

So the problem is in getting it shipped. I would call UPS and just ask. They might say they can't ship it, but Greyhound can.

Or you might call Wholesale Sports Outfitters in Calgary. They always seem to know what they're talking about.

kk

02 October 2003, 13:41

downwindtracker2

Powder is legal to ship to Canada unlike bullets and brass.Fed-Ex ships powder in Canada.

02 October 2003, 14:45

Alberta Canuck

Because of possession limits, I still wouldn't try to ship more than 10 kilos though.

AC

03 October 2003, 04:06

<eldeguello>

quote:
Powder is legal to ship to Canada unlike bullets and brass.Fed-Ex ships powder in Canada.

So you can ship POWDER, but not inert metal objects such as empty cases and bullets?? Boy, does this ever prove that "the inmates are running the asylum!!" There as well as here!!

[ 10-02-2003, 19:07: Message edited by: eldeguello ]

03 October 2003, 04:13

jpb

quote:
Originally posted by eldeguello:

quote:
Powder is legal to ship to Canada unlike bullets and brass.Fed-Ex ships powder in Canada.
So you can ship POWDER, but not inert metal objects such as empty cases and bullets?? Boy, does this ever prove that "the inmates are running the asylum!!" There as well as here!!

While I agree that the inmates are running the asylum in Canada, this odd state of affairs is in fact due an American regulation not a Canadian one.

You can read the details on the US State Department website (sorry, I can't access my other computer now where I have this bookmark saved).

Note that you can import bullets and brass to Canada *after* you get an export permit from the US State Department.

It doesn't have to make sense, its government policy! [Roll Eyes]

jpb

04 October 2003, 03:52

dan belisle

Yes, Fed ex, UPS, and others will ship powder IN Canada. However, none of them I've contacted will ship powder TO Canada. I'm still looking. I'm going to try the Greyhound thing. Failing that, how do I ship within the states? I can either send it to a friend of mine in Nebraska and he can bring it up, or I'll pick it up next time I drive through. Next time I do this, ot will be for all the powder the law will let me bring into the country. What a pain. - Dan

04 October 2003, 08:20

sonofagun

What about the following:

From USPS international site:

Prohibitions for Canada:

An issue of a publication in which more than 5 percent of its total advertising space is primarily directed to a Canadian market and which indicates:
(a) specifically where goods or services may be obtained in Canada, or
(b) specific items or conditions relating to the sale or provision of goods or services in Canada.
All alcoholic beverages including wines, etc.
An issue of a publication that contains an advertisement primarily directed to a Canadian market is a prohibited import if that advertisement does not appear in identical form in all editions of the issue distributed in the country of origin.
Articles so marked as to create the false impression that they were made in Canada, Great Britain or any other British country.
Butane gas lighters and refill cartridges.
Commercial tags of metal.
Firearms, including prohibited and restricted weapons, may not be mailed to Canadian addressees from outside Canada.
Oleomargarine and other butter substitutes, including altered or renovated butter.
Shipments bearing caution labels indicating the contents are flammable.
Perishable infectious biological substances.
Perishable noninfectious biological substances.
Plumage and skins of wild birds.
Prison-made goods being sold or intended for sale by a person or firm.
Radioactive materials.
Reprints of Canadian or British works copyrighted in Canada.
Reproductions of Canadian postage stamps unless printed in publications in black and white only and with a defacing line drawn across each reproduction.
Smoke-making devices for motor vehicles and boats.
Used or secondhand hives or bee supplies."

There's nothing there about bullets or brass!
And is powder covered under "flammable"?

[Confused]

04 October 2003, 08:44

stubblejumper

Geyhound would not ship powder or any other so called dangerous goods in the past when I inquired.

04 October 2003, 10:51

Canadian reloarder

You might have a problem. I tried getting podwer from Russel's sport in Calgary, and was told it is too much of a problem. Had to get a friend that was comming east to pick it up for me. I think you might have better luck getting Ben Laden in to Canada than gun powder. Stupid Canadian laws.

04 October 2003, 11:32

Nitroman

Powder is classed and ORM-D, a consumer commodity. All that is necessary is for it to have the correct labeling. The problem will be finding someone who will do the correct labeling for you.

You may try a commercial shipping company, and that is NOT, UPS or FEDEX.

04 October 2003, 12:29

P-17

All of us in Canada have been able to receive powder shipments via Loomis from that great mail-order friend to handloaders, Ontario's Ammomart (now Higginson Powders), for years.

Since Loomis will transport Ammomart's powders all across Canada, you should call them and see if they'll transport powders over the border.

With Loomis I know you have to pay a $16 Haz-Mat surcharge with every powder order.

04 October 2003, 12:32

<Steve in MI>

Well here is somthing to think about I have a buiness where I build custom Harleys. I tried to ship some parts into CA What a nightmare. the parts that need to be insured for 1000 would cost the the customer when recieved. A additional 349 CA . Anything over 60 dollars get two different fees. If you go to the UPS website they have a area that is just for what you are talking about. You can print the forms needed online.

This guy plans on driving into the state to pick them up . US mail had different fees but they charged you more for shipping unless you wanted to wait 4-6 weeks. Again cost was in the 300 range to ship a box that weighed only 22 lbs

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