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06 August 2007, 02:18
.22 HORNET
I Goofed!
Here's my situation. For reloading my favorite recipes in .22 Hornet thumb, I have "dummies" of my favorite rounds already sized to the appropriate OAL. This way I just put the "dummy" in my press, screw down the seating die until it touches and I'm set to go. Well today I made a new dummy round with a 50gr Sierra SMP. I've already had the range time to know that my best accuracy with this round is set at .020 off the lands with a medium crimp. While making this dummy round, I inadvertantly made it to touch the lands, not backed off .020. I loaded 20 rounds like this and put the crimp on them horse. These are max loads using 13.0 gr lil' gun. Do you think they will be safe to shoot with them into the lands? I welcome you suggestions. Maybe I should point the rifle down range while ducking under the shooting bench Confused
06 August 2007, 02:25
vapodog
Even crimped it should be easy to seat them .020 deeper!


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06 August 2007, 02:38
.22 HORNET
quote:
Originally posted by vapodog:
Even crimped it should be easy to seat them .020 deeper!


I thought about trying that but felt I would probably crunch the case. I guess I could try one and see what happens.
06 August 2007, 03:25
vapodog
Yes, I forgot how horribly thin hornet brass is.....

Frankly .02 would not likely make any difference in pressure.


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06 August 2007, 04:24
308Sako
If the bullet doesn't have a cannalure, and the cases were chamfered... what's the problem with seating .020 deeper? Second question is what rifle will be firing them? I'd try to seat them deeper, might loose a case, then again...






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06 August 2007, 06:07
.22 HORNET
quote:
Originally posted by 308Sako:
If the bullet doesn't have a cannalure, and the cases were chamfered... what's the problem with seating .020 deeper? Second question is what rifle will be firing them? I'd try to seat them deeper, might loose a case, then again...


The cases were chamfered and the bullet does not have a cannalure.....but, the crimp has a firm grip on the bullet to the point it sort of creates it's own cannalure. I think I'll just fire one very cautiously then check for pressure signs.
06 August 2007, 17:56
El Deguello
quote:
Originally posted by .22 HORNET:
quote:
Originally posted by vapodog:
Even crimped it should be easy to seat them .020 deeper!


I thought about trying that but felt I would probably crunch the case. I guess I could try one and see what happens.


I think it would collapse the shoulder or neck! What rifle do you shoot them in? Is it massive and strong? I've blown a primer or two in a .22 Hornet made on the little Fraser falling block, and it did the rifle no harm at all. Case backthrust is not likely tohurt a strong action in .22 Hornet, just as long as you don't get a blown case head!


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06 August 2007, 18:04
DMB
quote:
Originally posted by .22 HORNET:
Here's my situation. For reloading my favorite recipes in .22 Hornet thumb, I have "dummies" of my favorite rounds already sized to the appropriate OAL. This way I just put the "dummy" in my press, screw down the seating die until it touches and I'm set to go. Well today I made a new dummy round with a 50gr Sierra SMP. I've already had the range time to know that my best accuracy with this round is set at .020 off the lands with a medium crimp. While making this dummy round, I inadvertantly made it to touch the lands, not backed off .020. I loaded 20 rounds like this and put the crimp on them horse. These are max loads using 13.0 gr lil' gun. Do you think they will be safe to shoot with them into the lands? I welcome you suggestions. Maybe I should point the rifle down range while ducking under the shooting bench Confused


Pull the bullets, and start over. Even though the bullets are crimped, with a collet puller, the bullets will come out.
In my Ruger Number 1 in 22 Hornet, I'd be tempted to shoot one to see how it goes.

Don

Don




06 August 2007, 19:11
Snellstrom
I would put them in my kinetic bullet puller and give it two raps to shake it loose of the crimp then just re-seat them to the chosen depth and re-crimp.
If it were me I wouldn't bank on shooting them with a max load and into the lands..............if you do shoot them wear eye protection!
06 August 2007, 23:21
bfrshooter
Why are you crimping the Hornet anyway?
06 August 2007, 23:55
Trez Hensley
When in doubt, don't. Even the least bit of damage to you or the rifle will cost you way more than the loss of 20 rounds. I agree that it will most likely be fine but why risk it? Pull the bullets and start over. Just my 2 cents.


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07 August 2007, 00:11
muck
Just a thought.
When was the last time you measured your land location?
The throat has a way of crawling away over time.
What you may think is into the lands may not be!
My two cents.

muck