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31 October 2001, 01:54
<MFH>
short barrel cartridge
I'm tired of having a 26" barel hanging up in brush and tree limbs! What cartridges can approximate 338 win ballistics and trajectory in a maximum barrel length of 22"? I want to stay between 338 and 375 cal.

Thanks!

MFH

31 October 2001, 03:07
<DuaneinND>
You might find your 338 will still do the job even if you wack off a couple of inches.
31 October 2001, 05:27
DB Bill
You will pay the price in muzzle blast by going to 22" with a magnum...if you are determined, get the .338 and use lighter bullers such as the 200 - 210 grain options. This will give you the trajectory you want and still provide plenty of oomph at the target as long as you yse premium bullets like the Nosler. You will probably not be happy with the 22" barrel and strongly suggest you go no shorter than 24"
31 October 2001, 06:46
Atkinson
This "hang up in the brush barrel lenth" is mostly in the mind....A 16" barrel will hang up on brush if the bush is there!!! Not a good reason, a better reason is you want a short barrel...

I hunt in the thickest Jesse in Africa with a 26" barrel and also in the black holes of Idaho elk country...I have used the short barrels and never could see any advantage to them except that short barrels don't work well for me when shooting off hand or on off hand running shots, unless the barrel is very heavy indeed.....

I do like a short barreled, slab sided gun for hunting horseback, a Win 94 or Sav. 99, but again its not a requirment...

Our forefathers,the pioneers, Buffalo hunters, and Mt. men knew this, the cowboy invented the carbine I think, rest my case

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Ray Atkinson

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31 October 2001, 12:34
<IM4RMEF>
I didn't know my 26 inch barrel(BOSS equiped Browning) was such a pain until I started carrying a stainless Guide Gun. I now despise the 26 inch as most of my hunting involves thick blowdowns, horses and ground blinds.
Maybe the .338 WSM would retain .338 Win Mag performance in a slightly shorter barrel?
31 October 2001, 13:18
<gone hunting>
never had one or even shot one but a 338/06 from a 20-22" barrel should make a dandy tite cover rifle.

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born on a mountain, raised in a cave, hunting and fishing is all i crave!

[This message has been edited by gone hunting (edited 10-31-2001).]

31 October 2001, 13:44
<Don G>
I'd look at a 35 Whelan, myself. 338-06 might be better all-around, but you said brushy country.

Don

31 October 2001, 14:14
<MFH>
IM4RMEF,

That is Exactly the situation...Browning A-bolt Stainless Stalker with Boss in 338. vs. stainless Guide Gun. I like the 338 trajectory but the guide gun carries better..If only it had better longer range potential.

MFH

31 October 2001, 14:17
<BigBores>
Yup, I'd go with the 35 Whelen. Of course, I say that and I'm having one made with a 22 inch Douglas #3 screwed into a mauser action. I guess I just want company! Should be a great brush rifle. If it really is that thick, I'd say you don't need all of the 338WM anyway. You could just save yourself a lot of effort and lop the end off your current rifle. But what fun would that be!

BTW you never said what the game was. Elk?

31 October 2001, 14:29
Paul H
My 35 whelen ackley pushes a 250 gr a-frame 2700 fps from a 24" tube, though that is a hot load. I know folks getting 2600 from 21" barrels.