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29 June 2001, 16:38
<Gary>
170gr. noslers
Some months ago I bought some Flat nosed 170gr. nosler boatails in the solid base. I believe they are .30-30 bullets. I plan on using them in my '06. I can't find any load data on this type oe load, but figure on using data from 180gr. bullets. What do ya think? Am I asking for trouble? Or has anyone out done this before. I'll use them for hunting apps. deer mostly.
29 June 2001, 17:40
Alex Szabo
Gary, have you considered using the load data on Hornady's 168 gr BTHP or the 165 gr BTSP? There are a variety of powder's so I need you to indicate the powder brand.

Also, the VihtaVuori manual depicts load charges for a FMJBT of 170 gr for the Lapua bullet. These of course utilize the VV powders (N140, N540, N150, N550, & N160).

Let me know what powder you wish to use and I can give you a heads up.

Best regards,
Alex

29 June 2001, 17:45
<Fuzz>
You could e-mail Nosler and ask them.
www.nosler.com I find most companies are quite helpfull. Fuzz
29 June 2001, 23:45
<Don G>
Gary,
Your plan to use the 180 grain data is a good and safe one.

One concern I would have is how rapidly the bullet will open. If it is made for 30-30 velocities it may not be tough enough for 30-06 velocities. I think it would be OK for broadside or frontal chest shots, but would steer clear of any going away shots.

Don

30 June 2001, 01:39
<'Trapper'>
Gary:
Have never loaded the Nosler 30/30 bullets in the '06 but have loaded a LOT of the Hornady 30/30 bullets in both 30-06 and 308 Winc. Don is absolutely correct in his statement about not driving them too fast - I loaded to about 2450 fps and with a good solid neck shot this will almost decapitate a whitetail.
Now for the drawbacks on the downside: The trajectory will just about match the 30/30 and they never showed much promise in thick brush. I suspect the added speed caused them to upset and deflect more than they would have at slower speeds but never really tested this out with the 30/30, etc.
I am reluctant to quote load data as too many things can go wrong with data entry etc but we used 40gr of IMR 3031 and 43gr of IMR 4895 - I would try and run some of these through the chrono and see what speed the loads developed and then go from there until I had something around 2450fps - about 350-400 fps more than the 30/30. I don't think you will want more speed than this.
Shoot straight, shoot safe and shoot a lot.
Best regards,

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'Trapper'

30 June 2001, 03:48
1894
I'd be interested to find out how things go. I'm going to try some of the 120gr FP solid bases designed for the 7-30Waters in my 7x57 at start load speeds. If they're a similar POI with my heavier RN Hornadies I'll use them on small deer. I reckoned they'd hit a Roe pretty hard with that big flat point.
30 June 2001, 10:21
<Gary>
Well I figured on using what powder I have on hand. Right now I have IMR 4064, AA2700, and RL-22. I figured the 180 data would be better than 165 because of the B.C. Thought the 180 would be a better fit. So if the bullets keyhole or don't do what I want then they weren't a bargain after all. The best part of reloading is the expermention. That's possible. Thanks for everything. Anymore help will appreciated.
30 June 2001, 11:27
<BigBores>
Gary,

I've used the 150 and 170 gr remington flat noses in a 30-06. Work good for camp meat or rabbit loads. Killed a Javelina with the 150. I was keeping the velocity down to "max" 30/30 levels, but that was kind of the point of the whole thing. I think Fuzz is right about Nosler though, call or e-mail them, I've never known a component company that wouldn't help a reloader with starting load questions. Kind of covers their butts for liability I think.