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Military crimp qeustion.

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05 April 2018, 19:10
kennedy
Military crimp qeustion.
Ok I use the rcbs swager that is used with the press. My question is, What do you guys think the best way to remove the crimp? I heard of using a deburrer, a drill bit, and a few other tools to use. Whats the method you use and why. I got both 22 and 30 caliber brass. I did about 1000 cases with the swager.
05 April 2018, 19:22
Bobster
I like the swager because it gives a more rounded profile and easier seating.
05 April 2018, 19:43
gab
I have both the RCBS and Dillon and without a doubt I prefer the Dillon.

A bent rod or two on the RCBS were promptly replaced at no cost however a pinched finger with it and the relative slowness compared to the Dillon makes it an easy choice.

I have pumped at least 4k or 5k Lake City cases through the Dillon p[rimer pocket swager and it works flawlessly.

Gary
05 April 2018, 19:48
dpcd
I have used both swaging and cutting methods; much prefer the cutting method.
05 April 2018, 20:43
Lamar
I'm fine with just pushing the metal back where it come from.
I have the rcbs tool too.
never use it since I got the Dillon, but I have it.
05 April 2018, 21:38
hivelosity
Cutting method 2nd cutter from the left for mil. prime pockets.
easy and fast mounted in a RCBS case prep machine.
https://www.amazon.com/Frankfo...mer+pocket+uniformer
05 April 2018, 23:44
bigrdp51
quote:
Originally posted by kennedy:
Ok I use the rcbs swager that is used with the press. My question is, What do you guys think the best way to remove the crimp? I heard of using a deburrer, a drill bit, and a few other tools to use. Whats the method you use and why. I got both 22 and 30 caliber brass. I did about 1000 cases with the swager.


Keep using your RCBS swager if you don't have hundreds of cases to do. The Dillon swager is better for doing big batches.

The hand reamers are for reloaders that are into self abuse and love sore bleeding fingers.

I cheat and buy my 7.62 and 5.56 cases from BrassBombers that are already preprocessed.

.223/5.56 - Cleaned, Deprimed & Swaged - LC Only - 200 Pieces $22.00 free shipping
https://brassbombers.com/223-5...Pieces-5LC-SSP20.htm
06 April 2018, 01:43
john c.
quote:
Originally posted by dpcd:
I have used both swaging and cutting methods; much prefer the cutting method.


this. in a drill press.
06 April 2018, 19:29
kennedy
Well thanks guys, i thought about getting the Dillon also but i only do maybe 20 or so cases at a time. Only when i find them here and there.
08 April 2018, 07:00
plainsman456
I have the RCBS unit and a Dillon swager.

They both do the job but for doing a lot of brass or just doing a few the Dillon gets the nod.

It's worth the 100.00.
08 April 2018, 08:59
wasbeeman
I use the little hand driven gizzie that cuts the crimp out. Low tech, low price. I sit in front of the TV with two bowls; one's empty and the other is full of brass with crimps. As I watch TV, I trim the primer pocket and drop it in the empty bowl. Soon I'm finished.
Not as fast maybe but speed isn't what I'm striving for.


Aim for the exit hole
08 April 2018, 09:17
rg1
I've swaged thousands of military crimped primer pockets with the RCBS swager die. I have it mounted in another press. Size on one press and move the same case to the swaging press. I have bent the swager rod but successfully straightened the rod and it's still going. Many 30-06 cases have been swaged also. I bought the RCBS bench mounted swager I found on sale and have tried it but still prefer the RCBS swaging die. Don't like cutting out the crimps and especially not reaming. Reamers follow the least resistance and irregular crimps may cause a reamer to cut pockets out of round. I have heard that the Hornady cutter to cut out crimps works well.
08 April 2018, 20:31
p dog shooter
I personally found the best way of dealing with them is to sell them to the scrap dealer.

Or sell them to someone to thinks military brass is the next thing to slice bread.
08 April 2018, 22:40
wasbeeman
milsup brass is some good stuff. But, whether you choose to use it or not is up to you. However, knowing HOW to prep it is something worth knowing.


Aim for the exit hole
08 April 2018, 23:11
buffybr
quote:
Originally posted by john c.:
quote:
Originally posted by dpcd:
I have used both swaging and cutting methods; much prefer the cutting method.


this. in a drill press.

I've also used both methods, and this by far is the simplest and quickest.

I bought a countersink drill bit for a few bucks at the hardware store. Chuck the bit in a drill press (or electric drill), turn the drill on, hold the case in your hand and press it against the bit for about a second, and you're done.

Not enough brass is removed from the base of the case to harm it, and primers seat easily. Quick, easy, simple, cheap, and effective.


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11 April 2018, 01:44
enfieldspares
In truth I used the end of an LE Wilson deburring tool (RCBS) until I bought Lyman's wooden handled tool. I have the RCBS swager but never used it.