20 March 2010, 20:07
Bernie P.Rem UMC brass?
I finally found some small rifle primers for my .223

.Are these case's any good for developing loads or should I go ahead and order other brass.I know it's not in the same class as Lapua but it's a new gun so the barrel needs some breaking in yet.
20 March 2010, 21:09
BECooleLike you said, it isn't Lapua, but then it doesn't cost like Lapua either. It'll do just fine for all but the most stringent applications. I shoot tons of it.
Shouldnt be a problem for breaking in the new barrel. I too use UMC without issue.
21 March 2010, 06:45
StonecreekThe "UMC" brand on the brass is the use of a recycled name -- otherwise it is identical to regular Remington, or "R-P" brass (R-P itself being a name that was borne of an ancient merger of companies).
Remington bought the Union Metallic Cartridge company eons ago, sometime in the early years of the 20th century. For many years they headstamped brass "Rem-UMC". If you find brass so stamped, it is likely a half-century old or so. When Remington began marketing lower-priced military style ammunition in some calibers, they reached into the memories album and dredged up the UMC label for it.
Some years after it obtained UMC, Remington bought the Peters Cartridge Company. Eventually, Remington curtailed the use of the Peters brand name on ammunition, but continues using the headstamp "R-P" to this day.
There is essentially no difference in .223 brass that is headstamped "R-P" and "UMC".
21 March 2010, 06:48
vapodogquote:
Originally posted by Stonecreek:
The "UMC" brand on the brass is the use of a recycled name -- otherwise it is identical to regular Remington, or "R-P" brass (R-P itself being a name that was borne of an ancient merger of companies).
Remington bought the Union Metallic Cartridge company eons ago, sometime in the early years of the 20th century. For many years they headstamped brass "Rem-UMC". If you find brass so stamped, it is likely a half-century old or so. When Remington began marketing lower-priced military style ammunition in some calibers, they reached into the memories album and dredged up the UMC label for it.
Some years after it obtained UMC, Remington bought the Peters Cartridge Company. Eventually, Remington curtailed the use of the Peters brand name on ammunition, but continues using the headstamp "R-P" to this day.
There is essentially no difference in .223 brass that is headstamped "R-P" and "UMC".
A darn good explanation....Are you a historian?.
21 March 2010, 06:48
homebrewerThe brass ain't goin' down the barrel-- the bullet is. For those first ten shots, you could use anything...
21 March 2010, 18:56
Bernie P.Thanks all!
Stonecreek I appreciate the detailed info.Always nice to know as much s possible about the components being used.