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30 September 2002, 09:26
<Berger>
45/70 reload data
Can someone point me towards reloading data for the 45/70? I have limited powder availabilities but can get some varieties. also, anyone had any experience reloading the 45/70 with somchem powders? If you can believe it, somchem doesn't even list the 45/70 in its reloading manuals, nor do they have any information when contacted directly. By the way, I will be using Winchester brass and 300g Hornady's.

Thanks in advance,
30 September 2002, 09:28
<Berger>
By the way, for the S.A. members, I have been told to get in touch with Mauritz at V.L.T. Arms and will be doing so. I'm just looking for additional info. opinions, etc.
30 September 2002, 02:54
ricciardelli
http://stevespages.com/page8c.htm
01 October 2002, 06:01
<Yspen>
Hello again Berger

If you are interested I can e-mail you an Excel document with my 45/70 data using S335 , S341 , S321 with mostly the 350 Hornady RN . I have just started with cast bullets and S335 seem to work best . Some guys in SA use duplex loads - I can advise you but don't want to post that on the net .

E-mail me personally for more info . I can also fax you some data if you cannot work with excel .

I recall that you have a Marlin - I use a Ruger but my loads should be safe in the Marlin.

The best powder seems to be S335 - start at 55 gr and work up till the load gets too compressed or the recoil too much . Only problem is that I get a great difference in velocity from Summer to Winter. The S335 is too temp sensitive .
A Load that was found in winter to be safe may be a different story in summer on a hot day.

Regards
Ben

[ 10-01-2002, 14:34: Message edited by: Yspen ]
02 October 2002, 11:26
Atkinson
Carefull there Berger this is one place I would start 50% of reccommended loads for that caliber!! [Wink] based on some of the posts I've seen.
02 October 2002, 14:09
Clark
I have been using 405 gr hard cast with lubed bands in a light weight 45/70 handi rifle.

I did some calculations to figure out if it was a:
1) trapdoor loads
2) 1886 loads
3) Ruger #1 loads

I calculated that it was the Ruger #1 action strength type. I read that 405 gr and 48 gr of IMR4895 is a trapdoor load so I started out at 40 gr and planned to work my way up.

The 40 gr kick me with a sharp stabbing pain in the shoulder, shook my brain in my head, and pushed my body some distance. I had never experienced any recoil like that before. I put the gun away for a year with only the one shot though it.

I tried 30 gr of 4895 and the kick was down to the 30-06 level. Not nice, but usable. The trajectory was poor with quite different POI for 50 and 100 meters.

I later tried to verify the pressure ability of the rifle and used Unique powder. at 78 kpsi to 88 kpsi [per Quickload calculations] there was some leading in the muzzle and the brass case head flowed into the poorly fitting extractor. My shoulder was not involved in the Unique tests.  -