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Ricciardelli - Powder Burn-rate Question!

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19 April 2005, 20:49
Ackley Improved User
Ricciardelli - Powder Burn-rate Question!
Faster
*205 MRP-2
206 S-371
207 WMR
208 N-170
209 Retumbo
210 H-870
211 AR-2214
*212 RL-25
Slower

Ricci, in you burn-rate list above, you have Rl-25 being extremely slow - how did you arrive at this? My experience with Rl-25 is that it's about the same as MRP-2, Retumbo, or Ramshot Mag - maybe a bit faster, but with more energy content. Rl-25 is clearly faster than H870.
19 April 2005, 22:12
ricciardelli
In actuality, the following have very similar burning characteristics:

201 N-165 202 IMR-7828 203 H-1000 204 AR-2217 205 MRP-2 206 S-371 207 WMR

And the following have very similar burning characteristics, except they are "one level" slower than the above:

208 N-170 209 Retumbo

And "one level" slower those are:

210 H-870 211 AR-2214 212 RL-25


How did I arrive at these rates?

From personal experience of around 45 years of reloading over 400 different calibers.


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19 April 2005, 22:35
Ackley Improved User
Rici, I agree Re25 is GREAT slow-burning powder, but I disagree it's as slow as you say it is - besides all the "official" burn-rate charts have it faster as well.

ADI-AR2214 = what American powder?
20 April 2005, 16:51
Gadge
quote:
Originally posted by Ackley Improved User:
Rici, I agree Re25 is GREAT slow-burning powder, but I disagree it's as slow as you say it is - besides all the "official" burn-rate charts have it faster as well.

ADI-AR2214 = what American powder?


No exact equivalent. Never sold by Hodgdon; discontinued several years ago and replaced by AR2217 [H1000 equiv], which is about 5% faster than 2214 was.
21 April 2005, 00:22
Stonecreek
Published information that I have seen indicates that RL-25 is only marginally slower than RL-22. The greater difference that Ricciardelli reports might be attributable to the rather significant lot-to-lot variations in the Reloder (Norma/Bofors) line of powders.

Like four blind men each describing an elephant quite differently by feeling of but a single part of its anatomy, Ricci may have an extremely slow lot of RL-25 on which he is basing his conclusions. Similarly, my only experience with two slow-burners, WC 860 and WC 872, is with one lot of each of the two powders; of the two lots that I have used, WC 872 is slightly FASTER than WC 860. This may or may not be the case with other lots.
21 April 2005, 05:26
bja105
ricciardelli,

How much powder do you think you've burned to learn so much?


Jason
22 April 2005, 00:37
Gerard
Comments and suggestions for improvements are welcome.
22 April 2005, 02:52
Sabot
quote:


I would scrutinize the position of Magpro on this chart...it is close to R25 in the 375 RUM.
22 April 2005, 06:55
CDH
quote:
Magpro on this chart...it is close to R25


I can say for sure my lot(s) is a heck of a lot slower than R19, and significantly slower than H4831SC and VN560 in my 300WSM.


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