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New line of bullets
09 December 2010, 20:14
Fat_AlbertNew line of bullets
Has anyone heard about of a new line of bullets comeing out. They are suposed to have a BC of 1.0,work in any barrel with a 1/18" twist or faster, expands to 5xdia. at any speed between 500 and 5000fps and cost 4 times more than normal bullet for the "if it cost more it must be better" gang. PS: They can be seated 0.020" off the rifleing in any chamber and still work through the magazine.
09 December 2010, 20:26
Ghubert
09 December 2010, 21:03
vapodogI think Fat_Albert is displaying his style of humor.....OK...I'll bite....

Where do we get them?.....

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09 December 2010, 21:16
Fat_AlbertHerters is selling them and Lackmiller is selling seater stem to fit.
09 December 2010, 21:50
GhubertI'm only messing with you as much as your messing with my mind Albert, now where can I get these bullets in Europe?
09 December 2010, 21:52
vapodogquote:
Herters is selling them
Too far....I'll pick some up when they show up at Lock Stock & Barrel in Valentine NE.

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09 December 2010, 22:23
rcamugliaquote:
Originally posted by Fat_Albert:
Has anyone heard about of a new line of bullets comeing out. They are suposed to have a BC of 1.0,work in any barrel with a 1/18" twist or faster, expands to 5xdia. at any speed between 500 and 5000fps and cost 4 times more than normal bullet for the "if it cost more it must be better" gang. PS: They can be seated 0.020" off the rifleing in any chamber and still work through the magazine.
Why of course! Is this a new find for all of you?
The really cool thing about these bullets is that not only do they expand to 5 times their pre-fired diameter, but they retain 125% of their original weight and always create an exit on even the largest of game regardless of velocity/angle of the shot.
Most of their marketing has been focused on the shooter who is on the cutting edge of bullet technology. These shooters "in the know" use the newer technology big game bullets like the Barnes X line, and generally shoot elephants with small to medium bore rifles, anything under 500 pounds with a .223 Remington, and regularly stop dangerous game charges with the .270 Winchester.
With the advent of this new line, those "in the know" will be able to take much larger game with the same calibers even with ill-placed shots and ranges never thought possible. The other alternative they have is to step down a few calibers and take the same game more cleanly than ever before! The .0043 Mosquito Swatter now becomes a viable big game caliber.
It's really turning the hunting world upside down. Their release has caused an uproar within the clergy and law makers world wide. The old ".375 minimum" law in Africa is now completely obsolete and will have to be re-written as well as caliber minimums throughout the World.
09 December 2010, 22:54
Fat_Albertrcamuglia: Again. you almost have it right. There is a smll screwdrive slot on the side of bullet so that you set it for full penertation or not.
09 December 2010, 23:05
Bear in FairbanksGood grief!! You guys have wayyy too much free time on your hands. Dontcha have some snow (or something) to plow?

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09 December 2010, 23:18
rcamugliaquote:
Originally posted by Fat_Albert:
rcamuglia: Again. you almost have it right. There is a smll screwdrive slot on the side of bullet so that you set it for full penertation or not.
I was wondering what that was for!
10 December 2010, 00:09
vapodogI just found an article on them....it says:
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The ballistic coefficient is so good that a bullet leaving a barrel at 3,000 FPS can impact a target 800 yards away and at a speed of 3,200 FPS. A gain of 200 FPS compared to a loss of at least 50% for other bullets.
Frankly folks, I don't really believe it.....I think they're shooting them down hill!

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10 December 2010, 01:04
butchlocsounds just like the old herters wasp waist bullet

10 December 2010, 01:29
vapodogquote:
Originally posted by butchloc:
sounds just like the old herters wasp waist bullet
I still have a few of them in .277 130 grain....
They were'nt as good however.....
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10 December 2010, 01:50
carpetman1Herters weren't as goood as something? How could that be? Afterall their name had atleast 15 adjectives--Supreme,Model Perfect,Deluxe, Custom magnum, world Famous,superior, George L Herter Special, professional, presentation grade etc and you say something is better? What name pray tell did these better ones have?
10 December 2010, 01:51
rcamugliaquote:
Originally posted by vapodog:
I just found an article on them....it says:
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The ballistic coefficient is so good that a bullet leaving a barrel at 3,000 FPS can impact a target 800 yards away and at a speed of 3,200 FPS. A gain of 200 FPS compared to a loss of at least 50% for other bullets.
Frankly folks, I don't really believe it.....I think they're shooting them down hill!
You better believe it Vapo!
I've done a search on them but can't find that exact article. I would say that explains the reason that the range of the shot is negated as a limitation and opens up a whole new realm of smaller calibers that will get the job done.
From what I've read in what I can find, the material that the bullet is constructed from is revolutionary and a proprietary secret. It's a special alloy that behaves similarly to the monolithic bullets at the cutting edge of today's technology except it actually
gains mass as it travels through the air gaining velocity. They don't tell you exactly, but I'm guessing the alloy somehow "reacts" with certain elements in the air, picking up molecules and adding mass. The specific gravity of the alloy is "off the charts". An X Bullet or any other monolithic may expand and "shed" a petal causing it to lose weight, but this thing has properties never seen before. Like Fat_Albert said, it can expand to 5X's its original diameter without losing any of its original mass or any of the mass it aquired on the trip downrange.
It is quite unusual for a bullet to be able to expand to 5X's its original diameter and not lose weight. The properties of the alloy allow for a plasma-like flow after impact, but without breaking any molecular bonding.
I think the reason for the velocity gain downrange has something to do with the strange coating on the bearing surface. Does the article you refer to say anything about it? I can't figure out what it is. It doesn't look anything like a moly coating or any other that I've seen.
10 December 2010, 02:38
vapodogquote:
I think the reason for the velocity gain downrange has something to do with the strange coating on the bearing surface. Does the article you refer to say anything about it? I can't figure out what it is. It doesn't look anything like a moly coating or any other that I've seen.
No it didn't....but I'm sure Alf & Co will be along shortly to explain it to us!

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10 December 2010, 02:58
Hot Corequote:
Originally posted by Fat_Albert:
rcamuglia: Again. you almost have it right. There is a smll screwdrive slot on the side of bullet so that you set it for full penertation or not.
Hey FA, You sure `bout that? I thought that screw was for adjusting the Audio-Responding, Radio-Transmitting, Internally located, Kinetic-Powered, Haphazard Strain Gauge signals. But, my memory may have mixed that up.
10 December 2010, 03:31
aliveinccGuys, thanks for the info. Please do more research so we can spread the word on these new wonder pills. A guy is trying to sell me a .129 gnat. He says w/ better bullets, the gnat will be perfect for a nilgai hunt coming up.
10 December 2010, 03:37
vapodogquote:
Originally posted by aliveincc:
Guys, thanks for the info. Please do more research so we can spread the word on these new wonder pills. A guy is trying to sell me a .129 gnat. He says w/ better bullets, the gnat will be perfect for a nilgai hunt coming up.
Nilgai are tough.....A .17 turbowasp is better.
Start a thread on medium bores and see what they think!
Be careful though as some folks there might try to take it elk hunting!

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10 December 2010, 03:49
bartsche
Please turn in all you computers to the nearest 7-11, You are all in violation of sensible regard and understanding of the time alloted to us.

sorry

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10 December 2010, 03:56
vapodogquote:
Originally posted by bartsche:

Please turn in all you computers to the nearest 7-11, You are all in violation of sensible regard and understanding of the time alloted to us.

sorry

roger
This from the only guy I know with a .17 turbowasp
quote:
Nilgai are tough.....A .17 turbowasp is better.
Here's one now:
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10 December 2010, 03:56
p dog shooterI hate to disapoint all of you but perfect bullet has all ready been invented by me.
See the following for the Nano bullet leaves this one in the dust

Well even turn the .17 turbowasp into a elk/elphant gun ect.
http://forums.accuratereloadin...=930102262#93010226210 December 2010, 07:46
rcamugliaJust found this on the New Line Of Bullets website:
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OUR ACCURACY GUARANTEE
Any and all New Line Bullets are guaranteed to produce unlimited number shot groups without barrel cooling that will measure no greater than .1 MOA regardless of the range tested. We extend this guarantee to cover all and any component combinations (ie. any powder, primer, case of the reloaders choosing).
Any and all equipment used will have no bearing on New Line Bullets Accuracy guarantee including all manufacturers and makes of rifles in all available calibers, even including Stevens, Ruger and Savage. All assessories such as scope, recoil pad, muzzle brake, trigger assembly, rings, bolt handle and aftermarket barrel make* will be included.
*Excludes any barrel manufactured in Der Rhineland, or company owned by Der Furer (Namely Lothar Walther)
10 December 2010, 14:50
NakihunterI know it is a cold winter for you guys up north and Lap sickness might have set in.
But we guys are enjoying great sun & La Nina weather down under...AND no Lap sickness!

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10 December 2010, 16:12
p dog shooterBE AWARE BE VERY AWARE
THESE ARE NO WHERE NEAR BEING
THE PERFECT BULLETS
Only buy perfect bullets from The Perfect Bullet company Then only the Perfect Nano bullet Do not buy from the theifing imposters at the New Line company.
Lieing, theifing ,cheating imposters that they are. The Pefect Bullet company is taking legal action to stop and prevent the New line company from stealing The Perfect bullet.
Please see the link above and then send large amounts of cash and your no longer needed firearms to The Perfect bullet Company.
Where you well be taken care of.
10 December 2010, 16:39
p dog shooterA one time only FREE offering to members of ACCURATE RELOADING .COM
A FREE SAMPLE OF NANO BULLETS
Just send $1995.00 to cover shipping and handling and we well send you a FREE sample of the Perfect Bullet
ACT NOW AND NOT ONLY WELL WE SEND YOU NOT JUST ONE WE WELL SEND YOU A 2ND FREE SAMPLE
All for just $1995.00 shipping and handling no where else well you find such a offer.
ACT NOW
For are non USA members AK res inclued please add a large amount of cash and one un needed fire arm to cover the extra shipping costs.
10 December 2010, 18:44
BriceI tried the latest NANO bullet, and have a complaint. It seems that the BC is 1+, and the result is that the trajectory is actually up instead of down. Consequently the shooter must hold low, and the further the target, the lower one must hold. I called Leupold and asked them about a custom reticle. They are working on it. In the meantime, they said to just roatate the scope 180 degrees in the mounts or, as an alternative, turn the rifle upside down. The latter is a wonderful solution becase as a left handed shooter, I can now comfortably use right handed bolt rifles.
10 December 2010, 18:45
Hot Corequote:
Originally posted by p dog shooter:
Lieing, theifing ,cheating imposters that they are. The Pefect Bullet company is taking legal action to stop and prevent ....
Another source of income for belk???
10 December 2010, 18:57
rcamugliaquote:
Originally posted by Brice:
I tried the latest NANO bullet, and have a complaint. It seems that the BC is 1+, and the result is that the trajectory is actually up instead of down. Consequently the shooter must hold low, and the further the target, the lower one must hold. I called Leupold and asked them about a custom reticle. They are working on it. In the meantime, they said to just roatate the scope 180 degrees in the mounts or, as an alternative, turn the rifle upside down. The latter is a wonderful solution becase as a left handed shooter, I can now comfortably use right handed bolt rifles.

10 December 2010, 19:19
vapodogquote:
Originally posted by rcamuglia:
quote:
Originally posted by Brice:
I tried the latest NANO bullet, and have a complaint. It seems that the BC is 1+, and the result is that the trajectory is actually up instead of down. Consequently the shooter must hold low, and the further the target, the lower one must hold. I called Leupold and asked them about a custom reticle. They are working on it. In the meantime, they said to just roatate the scope 180 degrees in the mounts or, as an alternative, turn the rifle upside down. The latter is a wonderful solution becase as a left handed shooter, I can now comfortably use right handed bolt rifles.
Probably the most creative post on this subject.....

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10 December 2010, 19:21
p dog shooterThe money make policy is if you can prove it.
So because The Nano bullet changes at the time of fireing the to the situation you must of wanted them to shoot with A gain in elevation.
So they did once again work Perfectly complaint unfounded.
But just to be fair just send The Perfect Bullet company $1995.00 as advertised above and we well send you NOT ONE BUT TWO FREE SAMPLE PACKS OF NANO BULLETS
10 December 2010, 19:25
vapodogquote:
Originally posted by Brice:
I tried the latest NANO bullet, and have a complaint. It seems that the BC is 1+, and the result is that the trajectory is actually up instead of down. Consequently the shooter must hold low, and the further the target, the lower one must hold. I called Leupold and asked them about a custom reticle. They are working on it. In the meantime, they said to just roatate the scope 180 degrees in the mounts or, as an alternative, turn the rifle upside down. The latter is a wonderful solution becase as a left handed shooter, I can now comfortably use right handed bolt rifles.
We now have not only anti-gravity.....but also inverse-gravity.....Einstein would have been in awe!

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10 December 2010, 19:37
p dog shooterVapo See The Perfect Bullets Companys offer on the other thread you will be Pleased
11 December 2010, 21:16
Fat_AlbertI have just got information that the Perfect Bullet Co. was just bought by the New Bullet Line Co and the cost is only going to go up 50%.
11 December 2010, 23:25
vapodogquote:
the cost is only going to go up 50%.
Probably to pay the cost of all the worthless and meaningless bandwidth consumed by these threads....

Add to that a few on the medium bores and small bores forums and the 50% increase might cover it!

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12 December 2010, 05:27
p dog shooterLOL I have need some good laughs the weather is horrible and it is only Dec.
Keep up the good works guys.
You all know how those Corp. mergers work almost always with a price increase.
If they pay me enough for the perfect bullet maybe my wife and I can travel the world killing big hairy critters like some of the other. Owners of bullets and sporting goods companys.

12 December 2010, 07:51
Swamp_FoxIf you think the nano bullet is amazing after reading the above threads wait till you shoot at Schrödinger's cat. Current forum rules prohibit me from telling you what I observed. And if I could the results would be different.
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12 December 2010, 07:55
vapodogquote:
wait till you shoot at Schrödinger's cat.
aaaahhh...wallll...would that be a "cat"astrophy!

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