HODGDON H380 in the 375 H&H
I found a deal on H380 and being one who likes a bargain when it presents itself I bought some. Now various load data reads that H380 should work in the 375 H&H with 270 grain bullets.
Anyone used H380? or should I find another use for it?
01 July 2018, 19:08
StonecreekI haven't used H-380 in a .375, but it is very close in burning rate to its stablemate, H-414, which I have used in the .375. There's no reason it shouldn't work fine, but while its burning "rate" is similar to H-414, it has slightly different burning "characteristics". Powders can vary in how they act with case size, bore size, and bullet weight. So, I would not suggest interpolating data from a similar powder, but rather starting with data from a known source and working from there.
01 July 2018, 19:15
craigsterFollow Hodgdon's load data and see what happens.
01 July 2018, 20:29
butchloclittle bit fast i think plus you will end up with alot of vacant space in the case
01 July 2018, 20:50
BlacktailerMy limited experience with the 375 is that it is one of those cartridges that is very forgiving in what components you use. Seems like almost any powder within reason will yield good accuracy and velocity. Or maybe it's just my rifle...
The only way you will really know how H380 works in your rifle is to try it. I just tried Win. 748 in my M70 .375 H&H with the 300 gr. Barnes TSX and got excellent accuracy. Some of the 3-shot groups were under .5" and most under 1". Win. 748 is a little faster than H380. The Barnes manual lists Win. 748 as the most accurate load for the 300 gr. TSX. The powder is slightly compresses in both Win. and Privi brass. Based on my results, I think H380 is definitely worth trying in your rifle.
Run through QuickLoad and it should be fine.
What 270gr bullet with what COAL exactly?
Jiri
3.605, I was fortunate enough to pick up a bunch of Hornady 270 round nose bullets for general use
Cartridge : .375 H.& H. Mag.
Bullet : .375, 270, Hornady RN 3715
Useable Case Capaci: 85.430 grain H2O = 5.547 cm3
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.605 inch = 91.57 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder : Hodgdon H380
Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1,213% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !
Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms
-12,1 82 65,91 2362 3345 37779 8038 95,5 1,442
-10,9 83 66,82 2393 3433 39208 8153 95,9 1,416
-09,7 84 67,73 2424 3523 40690 8264 96,4 1,391
-08,5 85 68,64 2455 3614 42226 8372 96,8 1,367
-07,3 86 69,54 2486 3705 43819 8477 97,2 1,344
-06,1 88 70,45 2517 3797 45472 8577 97,6 1,320
-04,9 89 71,36 2547 3891 47187 8674 98,0 1,298
-03,6 90 72,27 2578 3985 48965 8767 98,3 1,276
-02,4 91 73,18 2609 4080 50812 8856 98,6 1,254
-01,2 92 74,09 2639 4176 52728 8941 98,9 1,233
+00,0 93 75,00 2670 4273 54717 9021 99,1 1,213 ! Near Maximum !
+01,2 94 75,91 2700 4371 56783 9097 99,3 1,192 ! Near Maximum !
+02,4 95 76,82 2730 4469 58929 9168 99,5 1,173 ! Near Maximum !
+03,6 97 77,73 2760 4568 61159 9235 99,7 1,153 ! Near Maximum !
+04,9 98 78,64 2790 4668 63477 9297 99,8 1,135 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06,1 99 79,55 2820 4769 65887 9353 99,9 1,116 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Results caused by ± 5% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 5% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 93 75,00 2730 4468 59786 8920 99,9 1,167 ! Near Maximum !
Data for burning rate decreased by 5% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 93 75,00 2599 4048 49710 9011 97,2 1,265
Post edited for better readability.
Jiri
10 July 2018, 08:10
Redstonequote:
Originally posted by Gojoe:
I found a deal on H380 and being one who likes a bargain when it presents itself I bought some. Now various load data reads that H380 should work in the 375 H&H with 270 grain bullets.
Anyone used H380? or should I find another use for it?
Not trying to sound snotty, however H380 data is easily available right on the Hodgdon website.
http://www.hodgdonreloading.com/data/rifleCheers,
Mike
10 July 2018, 17:49
snowmanGoJoe Looking in my reloading record book I see that I tried some H380 with the 270 Hornady in an old 375 I have. The record shows H380 grouped well but the point of impact in MY rifle was about 6 inches lower than other loads I had tried. For that reason I did not use it any more in the 375. Results in your rifle may be quite different
quote:
Originally posted by Redstone:
quote:
Originally posted by Gojoe:
I found a deal on H380 and being one who likes a bargain when it presents itself I bought some. Now various load data reads that H380 should work in the 375 H&H with 270 grain bullets.
Anyone used H380? or should I find another use for it?
Not trying to sound snotty, however H380 data is easily available right on the Hodgdon website.
http://www.hodgdonreloading.com/data/rifleCheers,
Mike
Oh, I have data, the Speer #11 and Lyman #46 and other manuals, plus the web. I just wonder how it worked out in application.
Snowman was able to provide some of what I'm looking for.
Cheers
15 July 2018, 00:41
deadibobquote:
Originally posted by Gojoe:
I found a deal on H380 and being one who likes a bargain when it presents itself I bought some. Now various load data reads that H380 should work in the 375 H&H with 270 grain bullets.
Anyone used H380? or should I find another use for it?
I'm going to guess the deal you found was at bullets.com
15 July 2018, 08:14
kcstottSame deal I found, 16# worth, Can't beat half priced powder
Just checked, and yes all the power is gone.
18 July 2018, 01:42
eddiel4Slightly off topic but I've had wonderful results with 4064 and 300 grain bullets in the 375. Based on 4 rifles, 4064 shoots phenomenally well in all and for some reason I don't understand (burning rate and/or pressure curve shape?) the "felt" recoil is different with a less punishing roll to them. I've decided it's the only powder for me in the 375 and a couple of other fellows who have have tried the combination came up with similar results...
4064 is my current go to powder for almost everything. I've had wonderful results with 260 Nosler AB and Hornady 270 RN. Locally reloading powder components are very limited. Being flexible with different components is a must.