240 Wby case forming die

04 June 2017, 07:11

CH and possibly others make a die to form 240 Wby cases from 25-06 brass. I'm told they form the belt quite nicely. Does anyone have experience with one of these dies?? Do they really form the belt well ?? I've seen brass that has been resized in a 240 FL size die and fireformed. That is pretty tacky but better than having no brass to load. Would appreciate comments from anyone who has experience with one of these forming dies and a picture of the formed case would be super.

04 June 2017, 07:29

ramrod340

About half way down. http://forums.accuratereloadin...351077271#4351077271

A member here came up with the 425 Fossdal brass formed to yield a belt.

04 June 2017, 17:14

snowman

Thanks Paul. That is exactly what I was looking for. That forms a pretty decent belt. Think I may have to try one.

05 June 2017, 03:16

theback40

Snowman, some brass makes cleaner belts then others. Once fired brass works, but new seems to go easyer.
I use one to make 400/375 Holland belted brass. It really doesn't do much but make it fit the chamber as I headspace off the shoulder after the first fire form. You would do the same with a 240 wthby.

05 June 2017, 05:15

snowman

40 What brand of brass forms best in your experience ?

06 June 2017, 03:08

theback40

That's almost a little hard to answer.
Rem for the most part. I've had mostly good results from Fed, and mixed from WW.
Any fairly recent, meaning post 1954 mil 06 brass, even once fired works well. You have a little less capacity, and detailing the brass takes a bit of time.
Oh, I forgot to mention, you are going to need a flash hole reamer. when you pound the case back out of the die, the punched flash-hole gets mashed back down.
Would there be any issues with sending my die up for you to try out?

06 June 2017, 17:58

snowman

quote:
Originally posted by theback40:
That's almost a little hard to answer.
Rem for the most part. I've had mostly good results from Fed, and mixed from WW.
Any fairly recent, meaning post 1954 mil 06 brass, even once fired works well. You have a little less capacity, and detailing the brass takes a bit of time.
Oh, I forgot to mention, you are going to need a flash hole reamer. when you pound the case back out of the die, the punched flash-hole gets mashed back down.
Would there be any issues with sending my die up for you to try out?

I have flash hole reamers. Thanks for the offer to try your die but I ordered a die from CH4D yesterday. I had sent them a few questions by E-mail last week and they answered me over the weekend. Talk about customer service ! Who works weekends ?? Ordered the die first thing yesterday and by shortly after noon I had an E-mail shipping notice with a tracking #. How do you top service like that ?

13 June 2017, 23:33

lawndart

How do I say this?

I just bought 100 240 Weatherby cases from Huntington Die Specialties. Made by Norma. They are absolute jewels to look at and handle. Case neck run out is less than 0.001".

I will likely buy another fifty per month until I have 200. That will get me through the new barrel.

Just saying, JMNHO, YMMV, etc.

15 June 2017, 01:43

snowman

Lawndart We have too many politicians on both sides of the 49 th parallel so I can't just order up some of that cheap brass. I can buy new 25-06 brass for about 1/4 what 240 brass sells for in Canada. So that belting die is not that bad of an idea.
Speaking of belting dies my new die from CH arrived in the mail this morning. I have already belted a box of 25-06 brass and I can't believe how well that die works. You can hardly tell it from the factory Wby brass.

17 June 2017, 07:34

lawndart

Yes, I stand corrected. Hopefully, Norma brass will become available up north.

Could you post a few pictures? I am now very curious. I am also becoming more and more impressed with the 240 Weatherby as a cartridge.

In order to get some 9.3 x 64 brass, I will have to go to our ATFE department to obtain an import permit for 100 pieces of brass from der Deutschland. Time to storm the UN with Pitchforks and Torches.

Thanks for reminding me not to take my good fortune for granted.

17 June 2017, 08:39

snowman

Lawndart Remrod 340 posted a link to so pics in the second post in this thread. I will admit I was skeptical that this belting die would work as good as the pics show. Well I was WRONG . I used new Win 25-06 brass and they come out perfectly belted. Once through a FL size die (shoulder looks a little funny)load and fireform.