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18 February 2008, 23:44
els
how well does H4895 meter
Hi,
I'm setting up to progressively load for 223 and 308> I would like to use h4895. Does it meter well in progressives.

If it doesn't what power do you suggest.
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18 February 2008, 23:52
butchloc
about as well as any stick powder. in a progressive i stick to ball
19 February 2008, 00:03
Stonecreek
H4895 does just fine in powder measures. I was loading some just last night in .22-250 and noted that my old Redding powder measure consistetly threw charges within less than .05 grain variation. It is not as buttery smooth as ball powders, but its flow is far from a problem.
19 February 2008, 01:56
els
Well one yes and one no.

anybody else


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19 February 2008, 03:22
dsiteman
For "routine loads" I use a Dillon 550B and IMR 4895 meters ok, but not as good as the various ball powders as mentioned. You will not be off that much if you cut a few sticks, but that of course depends on whether you are loading right up to the max to begin with and have no margin of error to work with in the powder loads.
19 February 2008, 03:35
Blacktailer
I used H4895 when I shot IHMSA and highpower with an RCBS 4X4 using a Uniflow powder measure. It consistently gave me less variation than my scale could detect.


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19 February 2008, 04:15
hm1996
Have loaded thousands of rounds of .308 & 30-06 in Dillon 450 & 550's for NRA HP competition using 4895. Being very careful to operate handle smoothly and uniformly you should be able to hold variance around .3 gr.

Regards,
hm


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19 February 2008, 04:30
els
thanks,
I will not load to max just standard loads. Thanks a lot that answered my question. I have had some problems with 4064 metering even though it is my favorite accuracy powder in 308 and 30-06. I have never tried it in a progressive. I have found H4895 to meter easier than 4064.


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19 February 2008, 05:09
dsiteman
Yes, 4064 is my preferred powder in 308, but it is long stick variety and I use an electronic scale/dispensor for that powder or for serious loads in long range matches. If I could only have one powder, it would probably be IMR 4895 for my shooting purposes. Close second would be Varget and or Reloader 15.
19 February 2008, 19:00
Reloader
I set up my thrower slightly light of 66 grns of H4895 last year and threw around 200 rounds of 300WM. I threw them alittle light and trickled up, but it seemed they varied little prior to trickling each charge.

Try ten or so and see how consistent you come out.

Good Luck

Reloader
19 February 2008, 20:57
Dr.K
I also use Dillon progressive reloaders . I've never had a problem with ANY POWDER metering effectively . As stated some do it better than others .

I set my measure for the correct weight , lightly tap the powder measure again FILL the TUBE FULL repeat the tap . Now I throw 3 charges weighing each one before I start loading .

I must have gotten an exceptional Dillon Powder Tube ? , Because it never deviates the weight for the powder once it's set . Checked on a 10/10 RCBS scale an Ohaus balance beam . As a matter of fact the only thing that ever changed was the #3 electronic scales I've tried .

I no longer use that electronic Chinese junk !.
Hell they can't even make decent Toys let alone precision instruments !.

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19 February 2008, 22:10
els
I just got a Hornady progressive. I have several lbs of 4064 on hand. I think I will set it up with the 4064 and see how well it meters. If it will work then that will be the best of all worlds for me since 4064 has worked so well in the past out of several different 308's accuracy wise.


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21 February 2008, 21:12
vines
stick powder is good to meter in large cases in the 7-mag class. if you want accurace in the 223 308 with 4895 you better weight each one. or use somet thing like H-380
22 February 2008, 04:58
Alberta Canuck
quote:
Originally posted by Dr.K:

As a matter of fact the only thing that ever changed was the #3 electronic scales I've tried.

I no longer use that electronic Chinese junk !.
Hell they can't even make decent Toys let alone precision instruments !.




The Chinese can manufacture whatever quality you are willing to pay for.

They long ago learned that much of the public today is not very discerning when it comes to quality, but that many of them ARE cheapskates. To appeal to that market, they make a lot of goods of low quality to sell at cheap prices.

If a person wants to buy stuff cheap, then they have to expect it to perform at lower levels than more expensive, more carefully made products.

Seems to me I heard the same disparaging comments a while back (1950's & '60s) about Japanese goods, like cars, rifle scopes, electronics, etc. Now who is struggling to keep up?

Perhaps you could better blame the American importers for the poor quality showing up here...they are the ones who decide how much quality they will pay for in the items they sell you.
22 February 2008, 23:01
Stonecreek
quote:
Originally posted by vines:
stick powder is good to meter in large cases in the 7-mag class. if you want accurace in the 223 308 with 4895 you better weight each one. or use somet thing like H-380


Vines, do you have any evidence of your assertion? I use 4895 (metered, not weighed) in a .222 that is among the most accurate loads I have for any gun. As I stated above, it meters through my (very old) Redding powder measure with about a .05 grain maximum variance (that's a twentieth of a grain, not a half a grain). That's as close as you can weigh it. Even if your maximum variation were more like .2 grains, that would be of no effect in a case as as large as a .308.
23 February 2008, 04:31
El Deguello
quote:
Originally posted by butchloc:
about as well as any stick powder. in a progressive i stick to ball


Agreed!! Use a similar-burning spherical, such as H335, WW748, or Ball C2 for =use in a measure.....


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23 February 2008, 12:59
vines
stonecreek, yes, in small cases 308, 7-08 it still vares .-0.30 to +.0.30 that is a little more that a 0.50 grain a 0.50 in 223 sometimes can be alot. my thrower is a RCBS. i can weigh 4859 more accurate than i can throw it. stick powder in large cases, 0.50 to 0.750 grains really dont have alot of effect i use mastly ball in my thrower for small stuff.