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.44 Mag - Same Load in Pistol and Rifle?

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09 February 2002, 09:33
Mule Skinner
.44 Mag - Same Load in Pistol and Rifle?
I have a Ruger Super Redhawk and Win M94 in .44 Mag.. I would like to build a load that I can use for both guns using the Nosler 150gr. Partition and the LBT 300 gr. WNFPGC bullets. My question is this: Can I load rounds for the Win M94 to the same level as the Super Redhawk? I am wanting to load full power loads for big game hunting. Any loading recommendations for either of these bullet weights would be appreciated also.
Thanks!

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09 February 2002, 09:51
Bill M
Shark Bait,

The maximum pressure for the 44 Remington Magnum cartridge is the same whether you are loading for a revolver, pistol, carbine, etc.

I like H110 in the 44 magnum, haven't found anything else that works as good for me so far. They recommend using Magnum primers with this powder, tight crimps, and Hodgdon does NOT recommend "light" loads with H110. You can get loading data for H110 at www.hodgdon.com .

Hope this helps, Bill

09 February 2002, 09:54
ricciardelli
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09 February 2002, 11:37
R-WEST
Shark Bait -
Hey, I had that signature first.

Last night I was reading in Handloader, I think, about this subject. One of the things mentioned was a problem with some of the heavy cast bullets not feeding properly through the action of a M94 Trapper. Something about the bullets being too fat or something like that. Might want to try a few dummy rounds to be sure they'll feed.

R-WEST

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10 February 2002, 05:24
Clark
When the Ruger carbine came out in the early 60s there was an article in Field and Stream that said high velocity rounds were for the rifle only. You never hear about that anymore.
10 February 2002, 06:48
R-WEST
Hey Shark Bait -

I just noticed this, re-reading your original post.

quote:
using the Nosler 150gr. Partition

150 Nosler in 44 Mag.???????

R-WEST

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10 February 2002, 16:47
<KTS>
Yep, I shoot the same load in my 10" Contender and my old ruger 44 carbine auto loader, just have to seat the bullet a little deeper for the carbine.
11 February 2002, 09:07
Mule Skinner
quote:
Originally posted by R-WEST:
Hey Shark Bait -

I just noticed this, re-reading your original post.

quote:
using the Nosler 150gr. Partition


150 Nosler in 44 Mag.???????

R-WEST


R-West - Can I use your latest signature? :-) Sorry about the typo. I actually meant a 250 gr. Partition-HG. Do you have any experience with loads for the 300 GR. LBT or 250 nosler in .44 Mag?


11 February 2002, 09:32
Busa Dave
Shark Bait,

You have mail when you get to the office on the 45-70. I use 200gr Hornady XTP's with 24.0 gr of 2400 in my Smith and Marlin. About 15 years ago my buddy who owns the ranch I sent you the pictures of used his Marlin same load to shoot a whitetail which was in a short range blind and all he had to shoot at was rear at about 75 yds. The bullet went in right below the tail and went out in the upper chest! When we cleaned this deer it looked as if someone had run their fist through him. This deer weighed 130lbs dressed which is pretty good for a Texas whitetail.

DWM

11 February 2002, 12:51
<ssleefl>
My work-up for the two is 240gr Hornady XTP
under 25gr of win 296. Deadly accurate in my Marlin and doesn't shoot badly in the Redhawk. I tried a couple of workups, always in my rifle first, and when I got a load that showed promise I shot it out of the pistol. I have not tried the H110.
12 February 2002, 01:28
andrew375
I shoot exactly the same combination as you. I use the 250gr. Keith SWC and the LBT 320 gr. Powder of choice is VV N110. In the rifle I can get up to 1900 fps and 1650 fps with the 250 gr. and 320 gr. respectively. Accuracy with the LBT bullet is outstanding. I've not shot any game the LBT but its down range (out to 600 yards) performance, compared with the 250 gr bullet, is awesum.

The only problem is the recoil with the LBT bullet, it actually casts out at 330 gr.,does shake things loose a bit, even with the winchester.

I use the same loads in both guns, all my ammo is loaded on a progressive. One good thing about these bullets is they have the same loaded length so I dont have the hassle of adjusting the bullet seater. The winchester feeds both these bullets flawlessly but the rounds are too long for the Marlin and Ruger lever actions. Which came as a surprise as the 250 gr. bullet is the original Keith design upon which the .44 magnum was designed.