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Newb? -To trim or not to trim?
27 January 2009, 19:44
eliscominNewb? -To trim or not to trim?
I am preparing to reload once fired Hornady/Frontier brass for a 300 Win Mag. Case lengths (after resizing) are from 2.584" to 2.596". 2.62" is max case length, & 2.61" is the "trim to" length for this cartridge. Do I trim to the length of the shortest case to make them all uniform, or shoot/reload them until they "grow" to 2.61" ? I can "group" the cases by length into groups with a max length variance of .006 - -I'll be load testing with these groups.
27 January 2009, 19:58
El Deguelloquote:
Do I trim to the length of the shortest case to make them all uniform
Well, I would.............
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27 January 2009, 22:05
Jim C. <><There is no law about trimming nor about what's "best" other than not exceeding the max length. Do it the way you wish, that's what the rest of us do.
27 January 2009, 22:58
onefunzr2quote:
Originally posted by El Deguello:
quote:
Do I trim to the length of the shortest case to make them all uniform
Well, I would.............
I would, too. You'll need to chamfer those factory necks anyway, so why not trim them all to the shortest length, then chamfer?
27 January 2009, 23:52
GrumulkinI don't trim cases that are less than or equal to the maximum length unless I plan on crimping the bullets and need them of uniform length so the crimp on all is in the cannelure.
28 January 2009, 00:02
Bear in FairbanksI too usually trim to the shortest length. One reasons I recommend the use of digital calipers is for this very task. For trimming a box of cases, I just grab a case, put the jaws on it and hit the "zero" button. I then put this case aside and continue checking cases. If/when I find one giving me a negative reading, I re-zero the calipers and place that case aside as a reference. Once a box is done, I set my trimmer to the length of the shortest case I found. It's fast, easy and most of all there is no interpolation needed.
I basically do the same for seating my bullets too. Just how I do things.
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28 January 2009, 00:09
vapodogquote:
Originally posted by Grumulkin:
I don't trim cases that are less than or equal to the maximum length unless I plan on crimping the bullets and need them of uniform length so the crimp on all is in the cannelure.
This is my take too!
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28 January 2009, 01:12
eliscominThanks for the replies guys - 3 yes & 3 no sounds like a coin flip.
I'd like the cases to be uniform, but I'm a little concerned about being .026" below the "trim to" length. I guess the factory loads were even shorter than that before firing.
28 January 2009, 01:42
ramrod340quote:
quote:
Originally posted by Grumulkin:
I don't trim cases that are less than or equal to the maximum length unless I plan on crimping the bullets and need them of uniform length so the crimp on all is in the cannelure.
This is my take too!
+1
When I started I used to trim everything to the shortest case. Then actually started checking to see if it made and accuracy difference. None that I could find in my testing. Since many of my cases are short anyway because they are necked up I simply let them grow. I've been know to trim new cases .05 short and never trim them again before pitching them.
If you feel it makes a difference, or you simply want all your cases as close to the same as possible go for it. Neck thickness, hardness, tension etc will have greater impact at least in my testing.
As usual just my $.02
Paul K
28 January 2009, 01:42
GarByIf you aren't crimping no worries at all....shoot 'em until they "grow"...if ever to the max length. If you are crimping, trim all uniformly to shortest case.
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28 January 2009, 02:53
rcamugliaOn Varmint Al's website it states that all rifle chambers are different in length. For best accuracy, he recommends determining your chamber length which determines your trim-to length for THAT RIFLE.
http://www.varmintal.com/arelo.htm#Chamber_Length