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Blue Dot loads- reduced recoil ...
09 December 2018, 11:36
#1 SonBlue Dot loads- reduced recoil ...
So..., although I have been handloading for a really long time.... (let's say... who remembers Herter's in Houston - like... seeing the "trophies" in the windows as you drove by????)...
OK... now I'm getting lazy.... I had a reduced recoil load for the 30-06 using Blue dot 150g SP .... somehow I have lost the load data... Old age? - I don't think so... I'm only 53, but my wife (30 yrs married) is probably in bed - I'm not - hmmm... Parkinson's... not yet... although last week I lost a wrench while I was working on a Polaris SxS, and found it when I stood up... it was in my lap... LOL!
Ok... So, here's what I've got from my notes...
6MM Rem - M600 - 18" bbl - 17.3g Blue Dot - 100g Core Lokt ~2100 fps, sub MOA (1/4"@ 100yds)....
.243 Win - Savage 110 - 24" bbl - 18.0g Blue dot - 100g Core Lokt... ~2300 fps, sub MOA (3/4"@100yds)
7mm RM - M700 - 26" bbl - 27.3g Blue dot - 139g Hornady Interlock... ~2350 fps, sub MOA (9/16"@`100yds)
So... I am looking for some recipes for 30-06 and and any others using the reduced recoil Blue Dot powder loads.... What you got???
"Besides a well tuned round, a firearm's accuracy is largely dependent on what's attached on the other end of the booger hook that's on the the trigger"
09 December 2018, 15:29
p dog shooterOK
09 December 2018, 16:19
Saeedquote:
Originally posted by p dog shooter:
OK
Perfect answer!
09 December 2018, 19:53
John ChalmersHodgdon reduced loads
Hodgdon Powder Company has found that H4895 can be loaded to reduced levels. H4895 was chosen because it is the slowest burning propellant that ignites uniformly in reduced charges. To create reduced loads, the 60% formula is recommended. Find the H4895 load in the Reloading Data Center for your caliber and bullet.
OR, Hodgdon® h4895® reduced rifle loads - IMR ® Powder
https://imrpowder.com/wp-conte...uced-rifle-loads.pdfSearch for: Hodgdon reduced loads
Less chance of inexperienced reloaders blowing themselves up with this. All their recipes can be found on the Hodgdon site. jc
09 December 2018, 22:31
TX Nimrodquote:
Now here’s my rules...#5)A “group” is measured from outside to outside....
And yet, you claim 1/4” groups at 100 yards with a .243” bullet.....
I shoot a lot of BlueDot in rifles and handguns (see below), hunt and kill game with it too. But I no longer share loads for liability reasons.
.32 H&R
.45 LC
.223 Rem
.260 Rem
.300 Savage
.338-06
.338 Win Mag
.35 Rem
.38-55 Win
.45-70 Govt
.
09 December 2018, 22:46
Samuel_Hoggsonquote:
Originally posted by TX Nimrod:
And yet, you claim 1/4” groups at 100 yards with a .243” bullet.....
Surely you realize magically accurate 6mm bullets travel in interdimensional space.
OP, Type "seafire blue dot .30-06" into a search.
09 December 2018, 23:36
4sixteenBlue Dot works great for reduced loads in my medium and big bore rifles for off hand shooting practice (more challenging and more practical than bench rest shooting). Haven't tried Blue Dot in the small bores yet.
5 shots off hand at 100 meters using my 9.3x74R Ruger No.1-S with 285gr bullets and Blue Dot (measured with a powder dipper).
10 December 2018, 00:26
bartscheSend me your E-Mail address an I'll give you Sea Fires data +
roger
Old age is a high price to pay for maturity!!! Some never pay and some pay and never reap the reward. Wisdom comes with age! Sometimes age comes alone..
10 December 2018, 17:53
john c.quote:
Originally posted by Saeed:
quote:
Originally posted by p dog shooter:
OK
Perfect answer!
plus 1
10 December 2018, 22:46
eagle27Looking forward to #2
11 December 2018, 06:42
Saeedquote:
Originally posted by eagle27:
Looking forward to #2
That is going to be very interesting to see.
11 December 2018, 09:16
#1 Sonquote:
Originally posted by TX Nimrod:
quote:
Now here’s my rules...#5)A “group” is measured from outside to outside....
And yet, you claim 1/4” groups at 100 yards with a .243” bullet.....
.
In the little podunk school I went to, teachers always told us 1/4" in fractions was equal to 0.250" in decimals - It's always a good day when I learn something new, like there is no way to make a single 0.250" hole with multiple 0.243" projectiles...
I'm glad I was able to give y'all a smile or even a laugh or two... Don't worry about hurtin' my feelings or making me mad - it's a hard thing to do to this ol' coot...
I have nothing to brag about - just stating the facts... For a very long time I have had the fortunate circumstance to where I could load some rounds in the evenings, then, weather permitting, see what they did the next day, repeat... practice really does improve technique...
BTW, 4sixteen - that's pretty good off hand shooting with a mule kicker like that!
Now, all playing aside, (my grandkids love the fact I don't mind playing - nor watching animated movies
) - there is a reason I'm looking for the BlueDot loads.
I've dealt with the H4895 reduced loads, and honestly I was not able to get them to produce like using BlueDot, except in the rimmed cartridges like 30-30 and 45/70...
I have had years of personal load data come up disappeared, and rather than the long process of starting totally from scratch, I was hoping for some good starting points, of which I have already had some help, and a Big Thanks for that...
"Besides a well tuned round, a firearm's accuracy is largely dependent on what's attached on the other end of the booger hook that's on the the trigger"
11 December 2018, 15:41
John Chalmers#1, I tend to agree with you on the H4895.
For sub sonic loads and plinking at close range, I settled on Trail Boss. Great fun when I am restricted on FPS, which by the sound of it, you're not.
Welcome to the forum by the way. jc
11 December 2018, 20:39
Michael MichalskiBeen to Houston, never saw Herter's, but owned lots of Herter's reloading equipment in the 60's.
NRA Benefactor Member
US Navy Veteran
20 December 2018, 04:36
gabBartsche,
I was in communication with SeaFire back years ago and I too have much of his data with BlueDot
Found it to be spot on
If it is OK with you, can I PM you and see if you have some calibers that I don't?
Will reciprocate if you need any I have printed off.
I think SeaFire left the range, so to speak. so whatever he posted will be all we get.
Gary
20 December 2018, 07:59
bartsche Direct E-mail would be better.
bartsche@sbcglobal.net .
roger
Old age is a high price to pay for maturity!!! Some never pay and some pay and never reap the reward. Wisdom comes with age! Sometimes age comes alone..