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07 April 2014, 03:21
Turner421Good day at the range!
Hey guy's, just wanted to tell everyone who gave me their advice thanks! I went to the range today with some 5.56 reloads. It went awesome! I loaded 50 with 25gr of 4064 and 55gr Nosler's. And 30 with 20gr of Accurate 2015, and 77gr Nosler Hpbt. The rounds with the 4064 were very accurate! But the ones with 2015 didn't do so great? They were accurate, but I kept getting duds!?? I loaded them the way it says in the Nosler #7 manual, so I don't know what happened? I also loaded 60 9mm, and 60 380 rounds. The 380 were great, but the 9mm "still not impressed". On a good note, I had no bullets collapse into the case's when loading the 9mm. So with you guys help, I got that fixed! I'm pretty sure I didn't have my resizing die set rite? Any other advice you guys have will be greatly appreciated. And thanks again!
07 April 2014, 04:34
steve4102Duds? Pleas explain "Duds"?
07 April 2014, 06:25
Turner421As far as I can tell, they may have had bad primers? But its kind of funny it only happened in the loads with the accurate 2015, and not the imr 4064??
07 April 2014, 07:53
SR4759Pull the bullets and see if you left the powder out.
Primers are rarely a problem unless they get contaminated with sizing lube.
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Originally posted by Turner421:
As far as I can tell, they may have had bad primers? But its kind of funny it only happened in the loads with the accurate 2015, and not the imr 4064??
Ok, dud primers are extremely rare. Were the firing pin hits good on them? Post a pic of the firing pin indent on them. If not solid it is an indication of excessive headspace. What brass are you using? Fired in another rifle?
07 April 2014, 08:27
B L O'ConnorWere all your primers seated deeply enough?
If some were not seated completely, the firing pin's impact may be cushioned at the strike as the primer seats further.
Afterwards, the primer may appear properly seated and show a firing pin impression, so this is a problem that you must detect beforehand. You can do this by pressing your finger onto the primer . . . it should be seated deeper than the rim, and your finger will detect if it is not.
07 April 2014, 15:38
Turner421I'll bet you guys are rite about the primers! I'm looking at a cpl rite now and I bet they aren't set deep enough?! When I get home from work today ill post some pics. I also don't know if I'm doing a good enough job removing the crimp on the primer pocket!? I'm using a primer pocket reamer to do this, but I would like to get a swager??
07 April 2014, 15:42
Turner421As far as headspace, I'm using federal brass, And I'm making sure that I follow the manual on the O.A.L?? But that doesn't mean I'm doing it rite.....
07 April 2014, 17:19
GerryTurner,
As for the primer issue; all you have to do is stand the cartridge upright on it's base. If you've not seated the primers to the correct depth there will be a bunch of wobble - Whoops! Primer not seated deep enough.
Can happen easily enough if you're not using a dedicated priming tool and priming from your press.
Every time I prime I set the case down flat on the bench next to the priming tool before it goes into storage; perfectly flat right there and you can easily feel a high primer.
Duds, actually if it was a primer not seated deep enough it's usually a hang fire, delayed detonation.
If you've created headspace by over sizing the cases (pushing the shoulder back too far) you will also get a delayed detonation.
.... or ..... none of the above and you contaminated the batch of primers you loaded with the AA-2015 by touching them with your fingers or getting oil/grease on them.
Cheers,
Number 10
07 April 2014, 19:43
Turner421I have a Hornady lock n load progressive, but when I'm loading 556 I use it as a single stage press. either way I don't touch the primers at all.
Primers are hard to contaminate anyway; I have tried it. They are sealed pretty well. The high seating could be the problem as stated above.
07 April 2014, 20:32
Gerryquote:
have a Hornady lock n load progressive, but when I'm loading 556 I use it as a single stage press. either way I don't touch the primers at all.
O.K., then it must be another reason, see 1, or 2 above.
Cheers,
Number 10
07 April 2014, 20:38
kaboomBe very careful of spray solvents and lubricants around primers. Penetrating oils like WD-40 and Kroil are particularly bad.
09 April 2014, 18:42
Bill CooleyDid you try a second strike on the primers?
Bill
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11 April 2014, 18:54
Turner421I didn't try that but I will. I'll let you know what happens.
13 April 2014, 17:15
Suwannee TimYou can detect presence of absence of a powder charge in rifle cartridges by weighing.
Suwannee Tim