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28 November 2006, 07:18
cummins cowboy
rank brass by thickness
I was wondering how different makes of brass compare to each other in thickness

ranke these

Remington
winchester
Hornady
Norma
federal
black hills
nosler


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28 November 2006, 10:04
Jaco Human
The only way to find out is to get a couple of new cases from every brand and measure the water volume after the cases was prepared. The ones with the lowest water capacity will be the thichest brass. Maybe somebody allready did the tests.


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28 November 2006, 19:31
Reloader
cummins cowboy,

Hopefully someone has measured them all to answer your question. I've always considered Win, Hornady, and Nosler to be about the same w/ Rem being alittle thicker and Federal being the thickest. I may be wrong but Norma seems thinner than all of them on the list but, I don't know how it compares to Blackhills. Blackhills is the only one from the list I don't have experience with.

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28 November 2006, 20:28
cummins cowboy
reason I am asking is I have a 22-250 load that is deadly accurate, however its on the ragged edge of being too hot, I will prolly need some new brass and the last thing I want to do is get thicker brass than the WW super I have been using. so norma is the thinnest brass of the bunch, can anyone else confirm this??


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28 November 2006, 21:11
Tailgunner
Even if you stay with WW brass, you still need to back off and work back up (their is a lot to lot variance to consider).
Chronograph your current load, change brands of brass and, drop the charge weight, work back up to the velocities you were getting with your older brass.
28 November 2006, 23:04
fredj338
It may also vary from cartridge to cartridge. WW 22-250 may be diff. in relation to WW 06. At least in .30-06 & .308 I have found Norma a bit soft compared to WW.


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28 November 2006, 23:28
Pegleg
Get a ball micrometer and measure them. And you have left off the best brass made which is Lapua.


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28 November 2006, 23:39
cummins cowboy
quote:
Originally posted by Pegleg:
Get a ball micrometer and measure them. And you have left off the best brass made which is Lapua.


yeah but they only make select calibers, that just so happen to be the ones I don't normally shoot


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29 November 2006, 00:15
Jennerwein
As far as my experience (< measurements) goes, Lapua and RWS would rank on top - also pricewise.
29 November 2006, 00:34
fredj338
quote:
Originally posted by Jennerwein:
As far as my experience (< measurements) goes, Lapua and RWS would rank on top - also pricewise.

Lapua & RWS are tops but not available in .22-250. You may want to give the Nosler brass a try. I don't know who makes it but I am willing to give a box a try.


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29 November 2006, 00:43
Ol` Joe
Just out of curiosity, why would you want to make a component change on a load that you have proven to be "deadly accurate" in your rifle?
I`d do what I could to stay with the same brand components if possible.


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29 November 2006, 01:26
onefunzr2
quote:
Originally posted by cummins cowboy:
I was wondering how different makes of brass compare to each other in thickness

ranke these

Remington
winchester
Hornady
Norma
federal
black hills
nosler


According to the book Metallic Cartridge Reloading, 3rd edition:

"With a standard 52 grain bullet, seated normally, usuable case capacity is ~42.5 grains of water." What do yours measure?
29 November 2006, 02:37
TEANCUM
From my experience with a 22-250 I would recommend the Winchester brass as far as capacity in the medium price range.
29 November 2006, 02:48
woods
Hey cc

By weight, which should be an indication of powder capacity, 30-06 new brass weighs approximately the following:

Nosler - 201.5
Remington - 199
Lapua - 198
Norma - 181.8
WW - 181.5

IME, the Norma brass does hold more powder than the Nosler and about the same as WW. I have had neck splits with WW and have never had any kind of problem with Norma. Norma is much more finished and consistant with drilled flash holes and fewer bent cases in a new box. However, Norma is much more expensive.


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