What has been your experience with these? I just got some 160 gr for my 7mm rem mag. Any suggested loads? Also are they moly or lubalox?

Failsafes are moly coated.They tend to be tempermental as to which rifles they shoot well in.

The original FS is coated with Lubalox, a dry substance that I believe is not a lubricant like moly is. The new FS, made by Combined Technologies is moly coated, but if I well remember Cabela's advertises it as "Lubalox" coated, so it is possible that both versions are available.

The FS bullet is not a match grade bullet, so don't expect "supper" accuracy. It is a bullet designed for hunting, and it is almost a solid except that its front portion will peel back over itself on impact providing some expansion. It is much like a Barnes-X, except that it its base is filled with lead. This lead is contained by a steel cup or cylinder to prevent it from flowing out on impact.

My reasons for using FS bullets are as follows: Penetration through bone and flesh, some expansion if possible. Supper accuracy is not a factor for my type of hunting, just enough accuracy. I have killed moose with one shot from 100 yards to 250 yards.

POP,

Here is several tips on shooting & loading Failsafes:

1 Seat Failsafes a minimum of .050" from the lands, these are homogenous copper bullets and a little jump prevents pressure spikes.

2 Start with a clean barrel. This means removing all traces of copper from previous bullets you have been shooting in your rifle. I recommend a good scrubbing with JB borecleaner with Sweets or CR10 as your solvent. Fire several fouling shots with the Failsafes before you begin load development.

A friend of mine shoots the 160FS in his 7Mag. He has taken two bull elk with this bullet, both one-shot kills, one was at a lasered range of 437yds. He also shoots the 140FS in his Mod 7, 7-08. To date no big animals but he reports a complete pass-thru on a buck deer which was facing him head on at around 100yds. I have personally shot several .6-.7" groups with this little rifle and 140grFSs off the bench at 100yds. We use Varget for this 7-08. For the 7mag and 160grFSs, we use RL22 and Fed 215 primers. This rifle is a Browning Boss and will group down to .6-.7 also. Hope this helps, sure-shot

Pop, I managed to get decent accuracy (0.7-0.8", 3 shots)out of a 165 grs FailSafe in a 30-06 with 58 grs of IMR 4350. Note: this load is 1 grs over the max most manuals specify. I have this load from an article in Rifle Mag by John Barsness. John is of the opinion (probably correctly so) that a 30-06 is loaded to lower pressures than a .270 Win, so one can push the envelope a bit if one works up from below.

I personally don't like coated bullets - as they have a funny way of changing POI (as well as pressure) when you shoot both coated and non-coated bullets. So I elected to tumble my FailSafes long enough until the coating was (almost) gone. Did not seem to affect accuracy. I had to remove bits of tumbling media from the hollow point noses, though. Pain in the posterior... I don't strictly *know* I had to do that, but I was worried about expansion otherwise.