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14 June 2004, 12:01
buchsenschmeid
Surplus powders?
Tell Me about Your experinces (good or bad) with WC846 WC844 and WC852
Should be interesting.....
14 June 2004, 13:11
BCB
buchsenschmeid,

All of the following are M.O.A. shooters:

CALIBER�POWDER�CHARGE�BULLET�PRIMER�VELOCITY--WEAPON

.223�WC844�27.0 grains�50 grain SSPSP�WIN 6 �-116�2431 fps�Super 14�
7-30�WC844�31.0 grains�135 grain 287346�CCI-200�1932 fps�Super 14�
30-30�WC852�35.0 grains-170 grain 311041�CCI-200�1755 fps�Mod �94

I have several other surplus powders also and I sure do like them all. Wish I would have started purchasing it before it became popular!!!

The loads listed here were safe in all of the weapons I fired them in. Be careful as this powders have a wide variety of burning rates. Good-luck�BCB
14 June 2004, 15:15
TCLouis
BCB

You shooting slow, fast or 4895 speed batch of WC852?
14 June 2004, 15:35
jeffeosso
i've only used wc852, from pats reloading, ~h414... works great in 500 jeffe and 470 mbogo...

I want to get some of theblc2/h380speed surplus powders and try those, too

jeffe
14 June 2004, 19:04
Paul5388
I've been trying to use some Hi-Tech IMR 4895 (WC852?) but it sure does load different from IMR 4895. Seems like the start loads are close to max loads and I haven't gotten any accuracy out of anything I have loaded with it.
15 June 2004, 07:18
BCB
TCLouis,

Slow lot...BCB
15 June 2004, 11:51
p dog shooter
I havve had good luck with wc844 in 223 243 308 22-250. I shoot wc852 in 30-06 338wm 300wm. The batch that I have is slow.

The Wc 846 I have is really hot I am using a full 20% below recomened loads.

Over all I have load around 50 lbs of surplus in the last five years I have had good luck with it. Except the 846 that was a lot hotter.
15 June 2004, 13:11
rg1
I've used WC860, 5010, an WC844. The 844 I have is hotter than normal. I load 25 grains of 844 in .223 with 55 grain bullets and that load is "near" maximum. I've used 3 different lots of 860 and one 8 lb. jug is considerably slower than the other 2 lots by about 300 feet per second with the same charge. You need to start at low recommended charges and work up with all surplus powders. A chronograph is almost a must when working up loads with surplus powder. However, using surplus powder is economical and I've had good results with accuracy. I wonder how much longer surplus powder will be available??
15 June 2004, 16:33
Perforator
I use the 844 in .223 for my AR-15. Loaded at the mid range of power with 55gr remington bulk bullets. Good price too.
I wish it was still my secret!
15 June 2004, 18:53
Lar45
I used some WC852 in my 165gn 06 loads. Don't remember the charge but at around 2730fps, I started getting bright marks on the case head. The charge weight to velocity comparison should have been fairly low pressure. I have tried some in my 30-30 also.
If you shoot magnum handguns, then WC820 is THE way to go.
I have some WC680 and it seems to need a Magnum primer to light off in my 45-70 loads.
16 June 2004, 03:28
Major Caliber
WC-846 works great in my .308
16 June 2004, 04:02
Ricochet
Quote:

I wonder how much longer surplus powder will be available??


Only until what's already in stock is gone. During the Clinton administration the rules were changed so U.S. surplus ammo components from demilled ammo can't be sold, they're incinerated and the scrap metal's reclaimed.

I'd expect to continue seeing commercial surplus lots of powder sold that were made for a contract but rejected, or where larger amounts were made in anticipation of demand that failed to materialize. Some of the powder makers worldwide who make powders sold in the U.S. under brands like Accurate Arms will also sell no-name bulk lots of the same stuff to resellers like Jeff Bartlett and Hi-Tech. (I'm thinking of their #2, #5, #7, and #102, #105 and #107, respectively.)
16 June 2004, 06:45
bartsche
The group I shoot with has been using wcc 844 & wcc846 for about 2 yrs.They both have performed as good as most and better than some.In one .257 Roberts Varmint the 846 is outstanding. It has its own sound signature ,however; instead of the normal KA POW it gives off with a reverberating KAA-BOOOOOM.Really different. The other surplus powder we are having a hay day with is the IMR 7383. It is not as adaptable as the 844 & 846 but where used as it should be it does well. At $24.00 / 7lbs. it is a real bargin. It seems to like heavy bullets and magnum primers.It loves my .243 with an 80 gr. Sierra psp
roger