14 November 2002, 16:04
<willp58>shotgun slug reloading
I have been hearing about some guy that is loading shotgun slugs with slugs from a mold he had built.
He loads them into a AA case with the plastic wad. The slug goes in the wad just like shot would then crimps just like a shot shell. So now in effect, he has a saboted slug.
All reports say this is a very accurate combo.
Is this a new idea or an old one that I haven't heard of till now?
Would wheel weights make good slugs?
Thanks, Bill
14 November 2002, 16:31
<Loren>Lee Precision sells a 12 ga (and maybe 20 too) slug mold that is designed to fit into a shot cup (even has a support in the middle).
I have an ancient Lyman slug mold(full bore diameter). I always did a star crimp with them, but it's been so long since I shot any that I can't comment on performance at all. I think I used pure lead, with this mold and barrel leading was a pain.
I think they recommend pure lead for slugs, but I'd bet that wheelweights would work fine too. With a .75" starting diameter there's little need for expansion.
http://www.leeprecision.com/catalog/browse.cgi?1037244943.1696=blackpow.html#shotgun Now that I live in Colorado I'm not doing much with slugs anymore.
[ 11-14-2002, 07:34: Message edited by: Loren ]15 November 2002, 04:56
LeftoverdjOld idea.
I hear that the Lee slugs won't release from the mold unless the mold is altered or you use straight lead.
I have been using an old Lyman mold that casts slugs too big for a shotcup and too small for my bore. I bang them through a homemade sizing die and load them into a shot cup. One problem is that most modern shotcups have tapered petals. I still have a few ancient shotcups with straight walls that work better, but better still is not good.
My best results have come with a .735 RB cast of straight lead or a 50/50 mix with wheelweights, works good in a rifled barrel, but I worry about one finding its way into a choked barrel. I coat the RBs with Lee's Liquid Alox and sometimes roll them in Motor Mica.
It's been a fun hobby, but if I had to hunt with slugs, I'd buy the modern saboted rounds.
15 November 2002, 05:13
LeftoverdjIf you use too hard an alloy, the side walls of the slug may crack. Most wheelweight metal is soft enough, but I would suggest adding some straight lead to be sure.
And if you use a star crimp, make sure you mark those cases GOOD.
And forget any idea of real high velocity. There are a few pressure tested recipes out there, but shotgun loading is too tricky to go experimenting.
I will sub in a one ounce slug into a load for one ounce of shot, but that is the only change I will make. I also like Unique powder for this work. The faster powders will pressure spike too fast. The slower ones will squib if your pressures are too low.
And I ain't even reccommending this. I am just telling you what I have done for years without trouble.
16 November 2002, 04:53
TomPI used to get slugs for 20 gauge from Ballistic Products, loaded them with plastic wads in hulls. Loads were light, and did not cause any trouble in Savage 24s.